From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Cycle Auto-Fill Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 00:43:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87y2ibvrq7.fsf@web.de> <878sabizcy.fsf@web.de> <87v9dfhj2e.fsf@web.de> <87ft4jslxp.fsf@web.de> <87y2iabkuo.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32620"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 07 01:05:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1km426-0008Nm-2k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 01:05:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33290 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1km424-0001SP-UI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 19:05:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1km3gq-0000Yg-O8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 18:43:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:55971) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1km3gn-0000Kw-1P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 18:43:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1607298215; bh=GXgiCt6rz4ZVwR4YtMaXIgfgda5Hpn0XzNiojgipfNs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=HYEueiDH5NqNuLHmZHCKsu5CEPNvSQ/1eI1EiVvELW4QmtXHn9gNfh6jWkEmNn+15 YY12I9rm+kurPPQfVCJm9mWRFTc6DTWSlpjQG2G3abxaksb/pmeecSYl/zYqNeI3rU r7skvzvWq32Frx91vhUVJ5b5PvRDYiub9Tkauv5Q= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs11.server.lan [172.19.170.179]) (via HTTP); Mon, 7 Dec 2020 00:43:34 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <87y2iabkuo.fsf@web.de> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4/DP+uTdPuQLLMpUFDgWLH+hZ8yDTGePHKzedsofphdrJ4Yl/BpUsIitUGPWswJO/XCez 5siR12PdV39Klmp+BAzuB3BAmvCS7zJzMwuNOvZO/pct2sh1fgjp+fqqlYWHLShsebYscKPitEIF Rw6EhNpTRd+w3Cbqk/KZnw4d+AbDKZLtPLaenpkNPcDHyDkJxgenIuLgQo8F/9vF9oVyPgZITakq 5HMuC6+klWC1BuLVUt8mDdyTzL0voGWY8M4i1XshBuZpyWuqhoTJXvLrtCTtjxWIttf68eDTJEJN WI= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ckdNkK6AkxI=:S6+Y0bXY7z3uyKFLyNe4RU qA+62g6qUaNvTIgQvPhshJae5nDCUItqBsvTmGx1+oHDboUztS3K8ZxZIiMSrL/R90zxaFagw 5sLBcBY+xBp4YVmalLMAxCAPNkCCk7YPXSzXSKEowUf1Ck40GvPYbga6Rvjd1JLDYGQosC+34 tbdfa5l6ZF1jcyZVz1HaYy+T1is4SB6qqHsC0kq+3RF+AEvbO+gSibMVbhrpx/QutRfKL8MS/ 4dmSW3dyrDN3iuC+U1GOZ4MOoNKykHp7ODJtWOqXR0ojL1/Evp2c4YMkQk/l53d5esbN7KU4v Sk6BmPxRYsChJfrHw3xzR2XygFmxIWcvk/n0d7kdrSp06l1YdwcJ9Rk/R8pO829xFN5VUa1JN WM+8IJ+B8Y5H+o4YlspmJWqZkkBMZsiWlJZ+TjHoetszHFMzDPAFOmAEW5Ttdx7/KPeQSfgh1 DXDtuSYu6ey6Ezl9E3o+jjmqjaJlDwfdYgFlGAgPw++iHKfdopHqBZ2qGFhVZxJiYmfZRussn qi2MWeV3DyAJG+MwlPg936UywHm1PLkuysjD4M5cfbd0j2TDk4g8OHOghoZ9GHCyz/jgHhXnY OrPGwfbb8vHTA= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.22; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126125 Archived-At: > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 at 12:01 AM > From: "Michael Heerdegen" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Cycle Auto-Fill > > Christopher Dimech writes: > > > Unbound? What is that? > > (info "(elisp) Void Variables") What is the relevance of having the value cell of symbol auto-fill-mode void? Why do you recommend auto-fill-function instead? Looks like auto-fill-function is a variable called in auto-fill-mode. You seem to imply that setting the variable auto-fill-function breaks the line without needing to utilise auto-fill-mode. > > For what things should a key-cycle be global? > > Things that make emacs look different, for example: menu-bar-mode and > such, display-time-mode and things that change the mode-line. Changing > frame backgrounds because it got dark, or changing how Emacs looks like > because you want to use it for a presentation? Very clear, thank you. This got us back to what Daniela was doing with mode-line. Quite many things can be linked together. She has not managed to revert mode-line to its original value, last time we talked about that. > Things that toggle features for a frame or window instead of a buffer > (e.g. scroll-bars). Toggling debugger flags. Things where you want a > toggle but can't remember all the values in all of the buffers, > e.g. `case-fold-search' or such things. > > > Regards, > > Michael. > > >