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From: Heime <heimeborgia@protonmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making new files
Date: Sun, 05 May 2024 18:54:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <soc2UwBGlI-97QQXXesD7C9ufpv__GQaaH-w4wVT3Z3AKk8-Qwu0D2hCYfplD7728hjAkMMagfEVK0klJ88v5K5lmVtSTQy9xU2gQ6NnwEs=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvfruwqhcw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Monday, May 6th, 2024 at 6:03 AM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> > Will do things a different way, disregarding the existence of "Visit
> > New File".
> 
> 
> I think before treating people of stupid, I'd advise to understand why
> we do things differently from what you're used to, and I get the
> impression that you don't understand that yet.

You are correct, eventually you can continue with whatever you want.
And I do whatever I want to, some other way.
 
> Basically, in Emacs we don't distinguish whether you're opening an
> existing file or a new file. You just `C-x C-f` and then put the name
> of the file. The name of the file tells Emacs where to save backups,
> which mode to use, which project it belongs to, etc...
> 
> If the user just says "give me a new file buffer", we can't provide
> a very good experience because we don't know where this file will be
> saved, which project it will belong to, and most importantly which mode
> it should use. 

I agree.  There must be a misunderstanding because I have not been referring
to "give me a new file buffer".  But "give me a new file" which distinguishes 
that you are saving a new one (as with "Save As") rather than opening an 
existing one. 

> LibreOffice has a similar problem so when you ask for
> a "new document" it has to prompt you back to choose the kind of
> document, which is akin to our major modes, except we have many more
> major modes. Choosing a file name is usually not harder for you than
> choosing a major mode, and it gives Emacs more information.
> 
> 
> Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-05 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 23:57 Making new files Heime
2024-05-04  0:15 ` Po Lu
2024-05-04  7:41   ` Yuri Khan
2024-05-04  8:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-04 16:08       ` Heime
2024-05-04 16:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-04 16:40           ` Heime
2024-05-05  2:09         ` జిందం వాఐి
2024-05-05  2:28           ` Heime
2024-05-05  2:53             ` Po Lu
2024-05-05  3:07               ` Heime
2024-05-05  3:18                 ` Heime
2024-05-04 22:37     ` Heime
2024-05-05 13:49       ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-05-05 16:37         ` Heime
2024-05-05 18:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-05 18:54             ` Heime [this message]
2024-05-05 19:03               ` Heime
2024-05-06  3:12                 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-05-06  7:05                   ` Stephen Berman
2024-05-06 13:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-06 13:16                       ` Po Lu
2024-05-06 13:34                         ` Heime
2024-05-06 14:44                           ` Stephen Berman
2024-05-06 16:43                             ` Heime
2024-05-06 16:54                               ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2024-05-06 17:00                               ` Stephen Berman
2024-05-06 13:40                         ` Heime

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