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From: Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:48:45 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrnmo1deu.j5e.Jim.Diamond@jdiamond-nb2.acadiau.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87k2v6wmpy.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com

On 2015-06-14 at 08:31 ADT, Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> wrote:
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
>
>> Exactly.  What I'm curious is how lexical scoping might make some tasks
>> *connected to editing* easier/more natural.

<snip>

> Writing programs is easier and more natural with lexical scoping, IN
> GENERAL!

<snip>

Really?  Are there well-agreed-upon studies showing those things?
Or are they your opinion?

It strikes me that lexical scoping is easier to implement for compiled
languages (that is an "off the cuff" comment from someone (me) with
basic knowledge of compiler construction).  But if lexical scoping is
"more natural", is that because more people were "brought up" with
lexically-scoped languages than dynamically-scoped languages?

The first language I "learned" was lexically scoped.  But the first
language I used a lot was dynamically scoped.  It seemed quite
reasonable and natural to me at the time.

A few versions of emacs ago something I was using went from dynamic
scoping to lexical scoping.  Working around that change was not
trivial, casting suspicion on the universality of "easier".

Cheers.
                                Jim


  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-16 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-29  8:28 Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-30  8:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-14 10:52   ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]   ` <mailman.4976.1434279182.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-14 11:31     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-16 23:48       ` Jim Diamond [this message]
2015-06-17  0:06         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17  6:23           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5136.1434522217.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-17 10:49             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 10:53               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 14:42                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 16:19                   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-06-17 19:30                     ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.5171.1434557990.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-17 17:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 20:22                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:13                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 23:46                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-18 14:57                     ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-18 15:47                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 13:49                         ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-19 17:41                           ` acronymania (was: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp) Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 17:53                             ` Rusi
2015-06-17 20:33             ` Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:07               ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-17 22:17                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17  0:43         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 16:02         ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5167.1434556959.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-23 23:49           ` Jim Diamond
     [not found] ` <mailman.3950.1432974543.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-30 12:59   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 10:55     ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4977.1434279342.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-14 20:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-14 21:44         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 21:49           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found] <mailman.3883.1432888152.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-29  9:30 ` Joost Kremers
2015-05-29 11:12   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-05-29 12:13     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-29 16:21     ` Phillip Lord
2015-05-29 16:50       ` Yuri Khan
2015-05-29 12:28 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-29 17:16   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-05-29 18:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-30  5:49 ` Rusi
2015-05-30 12:50   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 15:23     ` Rusi
2015-05-30 15:50       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 16:21         ` Rusi
2015-05-30 16:03   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-30 16:32     ` Rusi
2015-05-30 16:54       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-05-30 17:10         ` Rusi
2015-05-30 19:12           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon

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