From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tyler Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Quite a few emacs questions Date: 18 May 2007 00:56:13 GMT Organization: Sedgeboy Inc. Message-ID: References: <1179276142.234222.189970@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1179430428.737521.121530@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1179438643.818287.167270@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1179448033.268369.214140@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179451955 6210 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2007 01:32:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 01:32:35 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 18 03:32:34 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HorKc-0003c0-3t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:32:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HorSl-0002h8-7H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2007 21:40:59 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!post01.iad01!news.aliant.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Debian) Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aliant.net Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:148525 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:44117 Archived-At: On 2007-05-18, mowgli wrote: > On May 18, 5:08 am, Tyler Smith wrote: > >> I'm not sure what you mean - when you're running a straight console >> how do you avoid having ls scroll off the screen? Other than piping it >> into less, I don't know how you'd do it. > > When you do an ls -l in the real console, you get 25 lines of output > and it scrolls off t he screen only if the output is more than 25 > lines right? > > In eshell, the output scrolls off the screen even if it is 15 lines or > more. THIS is the problem. Ok, I see what you mean now. eshell puts the next prompt in the middle of the screen, so you lose more of the output off the top of the screen than with shell, which puts the next prompt three-quarters of the way down the screen. I'm sure this can be configured with scroll-conservatively or scroll-aggressively or something, but I'm not sure how exactly. I haven't had much luck getting scrolling tweaked just how I like it. > > term and shell are better and ls -l works normally as it would on > console. What's the difference between the three and which is better > featurewise? I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious to learn - hopefully someone else will fill us in. Tyler