From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tyler Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: special buffer frames again Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 20:05:30 GMT Organization: Business Internet Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178053135 17342 80.91.229.12 (1 May 2007 20:58:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:58:55 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 01 22:58:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HizQu-00026O-9l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 22:58:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HizXE-0003a0-Nu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 May 2007 17:05:20 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Debian) Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.177.91.235 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aliant.net Original-X-Trace: ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca 1178049930 142.177.91.235 (Tue, 01 May 2007 17:05:30 ADT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 17:05:30 ADT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147852 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 May 2007 17:03:35 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43457 Archived-At: On 2007-05-01, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> My typical work session on emacs lately involves ... > > Have you tried a scheme such as the one provided by framepop.el? > I.e. have a frame dedicated to such temporary buffers? > I'm just starting to play with framepop. It seems to do almost everything I want - the framepop frames behave nicely, and I've set their parameters such that they appear in the size and location I want them. The only problem is that it is awkward to get into those frames, such as when you want to follow hotlinks in a help buffer, or scroll through a long list of possible completions. So far this seems possible only when making a copy of the framepop (f2-c), but this seems to break the framepop behaviour - ie killing the copy of the framepop cycles through buffers instead of deleting the frame. I do like the ability to raise and lower/invisible the framepop, which nicely puts it out of the way when I'm done with it. The toggle option is one-way on my system though - f2-z iconifies the frame, but a subsequent f2-z fails to restore it. At the moment framepop looks like the closest thing to what I want, but it will take some time to either train myself to use it properly or tweak it to suit my needs. Cheers, Tyler