From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tyler Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:10:28 GMT Organization: Business Internet Message-ID: References: <87bqhd4swc.fsf@MagnumOpus.khem> <854pn4nvoh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87vefk16xw.fsf@pdrechsler.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177698942 27471 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2007 18:35:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:35:42 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 20:35:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HhVI9-0001NT-En for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:35:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhVO1-00019m-5o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:41:41 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Debian) Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.177.125.219 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aliant.net Original-X-Trace: ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca 1177697428 142.177.125.219 (Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:10:28 ADT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:10:28 ADT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147689 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43293 Archived-At: On 2007-04-27, Peter Lee wrote: > > If you don't like any of the extra display stuff.. toolbars, scrollbars.. > > you could use "-Q -D -load ~/.emacs" to avoid the "flicker" > > On linux I typically `alias e = "emacs -Q -D -load ~/.emacs"` > On windows I just make a shortcut for the same. Neither -Q or -D are recognised options for me, nor can I find descriptions of them in the emacs printed manual or man pages... lowercase q may be what you're thinking of, but that seems unlikely with -load ~/.emacs, and lowercase d doesn't make sense in this context. This flicker everyone is talking about - is that the brief flash of toolbar and repositioning of the emacs frame that occurs in the first second or two of booting up? Seems like a lot of bother over something so ephemeral. Not that I'd complain if I could eliminate it, but hardly something to get excited about. The discussion has been very helpful though, as I've now discovered initial-frame-alist, which lead to special-display- et al. That's going to be very handy when I sort it out to my needs! Cheers, Tyler ps. regarding the topic of this thread: I'm 34, been using emacs for twoish years, initially as the best alternative to the MSWindows GUI for R on GNU/Linux, now for pretty much everything. I'm a botanist, which confuses the compsci people I meet almost as much as my use of emacs confuses my botanist colleagues.