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From: Tim Johnson <tim@johnsons-web.com>
Subject: Re: C-p, C-b, C-f, and C-n... why?
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:49:36 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrndoruc4.4r0.tim@linus.johnson.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1133329096.909577.80790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

On 2005-11-30, casioculture@gmail.com <casioculture@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> In the tutorial it suggests I use  C-p, C-b, C-f, and C-n rather than
> arrow keys, why should i?
>
> What's even more annoying is this: C-p requires left hand C and right
> hand p, and then C-b requries right hand C and left hand b. Same goes
> for C-f and C-n.
>
> Trying to get used to this is such a pain. It's ludicrous.

    Much of this thread has been devoted to explaining *why*, as if
	emacs' chording paradigm should be defended. I'd like to take
	a different approach and speak briefly about the advantages.

	First of all, tho' let me point out that if your control key is
	not in an advantageous position it makes getting used to 'chording'
	more difficult. On my linux computers, I use xmodmap to swap
	the original caps lock and control keys so that the control key
	is next to the "a" key. Googling this topic should find some
	register scripts that enable this on Windows XP

    Having put the control key in that position, I find the control
	key combinations to be preferable in most cases to arrow keys, but
	having both is the best of both worlds.

    I have found learning emacs to be *extremely* difficult, but
	enabled by this newsgroup, and I have found the learning curve
	well worth the effort and emacs has enable me (and just speaking
	for myself here) to be much more productive than with
	point-and-click and traditional arrow keys, but that is just me..

	When my partner, who uses Kedit watches me on the keyboard, he
	just shakes his head, sighs and says "If only I could learn that!".
	But he can, just by learning a few keystrokes at a time.

	JMTCW
	Tim (who programs in emacs and writes email in Vim)
-- 
Tim Johnson <tim@johnsons-web.com>
      http://www.alaska-internet-solutions.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-30 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-30  5:38 C-p, C-b, C-f, and C-n... why? casioculture
2005-11-30  5:55 ` Herbert Euler
2005-11-30  8:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-30  8:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-11-30  9:32 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2005-11-30 11:58 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-11-30 13:21   ` David Hansen
2005-11-30 21:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-30 21:49 ` Tim Johnson [this message]
2005-12-09 22:03 ` Edward Dodge
2005-12-10  9:51   ` Xavier Maillard
2005-12-10 22:13 ` roodwriter
2005-12-10 22:40   ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]   ` <mailman.18736.1134254458.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-10 23:09     ` roodwriter
2005-12-10 23:12       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-11  4:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <mailman.18760.1134274741.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-12 11:59     ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-12 21:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-12 22:32         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-12 23:22         ` Tim Johnson
     [not found]       ` <mailman.19039.1134421524.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-13  8:28         ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-13  8:56           ` Ralf Angeli
2005-12-13 17:27             ` Tim Johnson
2005-12-13 20:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-15 20:36           ` Björn Lindström
2005-12-15 23:26             ` Xavier Maillard
2005-12-17 10:52           ` don provan
     [not found]           ` <mailman.19488.1134911034.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-19  9:24             ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-15  6:15         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-15  9:21           ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-15 12:01             ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-12-15 16:47               ` Drew Adams
2005-12-15 18:28               ` Mathias Dahl
2005-12-15 20:43                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-15 13:15             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-15 17:40               ` Xavier Maillard
2005-12-15 17:52                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-12-16 17:46               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-15 19:18           ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-30  5:52 Dave Humphries
     [not found] <mailman.17286.1133329946.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-11-30 11:08 ` David Kastrup

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