From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Schone Mullerin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: installing emacs and X11 on OS X Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:15:10 GMT Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035836182 17811 80.91.224.249 (28 Oct 2002 20:16:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 186GJ6-0004cN-00 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:16:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 186GJg-0000ZG-00; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:16:52 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!paloalto-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Darwin) Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Trace: /KHlxMafpZ4NL2sUZzMsYj7BfJWLEP2urHGK4QFPslbcW4hgjlKFf9AOJPq2kgIHvH0SwsarcJs8!3X8HNGty9B/IJPPtjJtMOai3UKU1wIXbHrVhlcat5F5iE11mr/tH//KUYUzzscjvcAY8heY9cBwH!SpWX Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:15:10 GMT Original-Distribution: world Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:106464 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3014 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3014 In article , Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Then perhaps a bug report is on order, with a request to provide a way > to distinguish the two configurations you are interested in. Of course there already is a nice clean way to make this distinction, because emacs already has a variable which captures exactly the right information. That variable is window-system. The only bug is that it's deprecated. Are you suggesting a bug report that says "either un-deprecate window-system or provide an alternative, since it provides information that isn't otherwise available by any other means"? If so, we've reached agreement. >> and even you don't >> seem to be able to find anything other than window-system that works >> for this. Doesn't that tell you something? > > No, not really. What should that tell me? That in emacs as it stands today, window-system is essential. What other conclusion could there be? From which it follows that it's the right variable to use in some cases -- in fact, in this very one we're discussing. From that it follows that the blanket condemnations of all uses of window-system can't possibly be right.