From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tuomo Takkula Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability issue Date: 07 Jan 2003 21:00:53 +0100 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1041982196 10478 80.91.224.249 (7 Jan 2003 23:29:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18W3AQ-0002ii-00 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 00:29:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18VzyP-0004xY-06 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 15:05:17 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.stupi.se!news.stupi.se!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!news.chalmers.se!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 54 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: quirm.cs.chalmers.se Original-X-Trace: nyheter.chalmers.se 1041969654 9887 129.16.225.31 (7 Jan 2003 20:00:54 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@chalmers.se Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Jan 2003 20:00:54 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108711 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:5238 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:5238 David Kastrup writes: > Tuomo Takkula writes: > > > The department I am working on just switched emacs from 20.xx?? to > > 21.2.1, with the new cool look. However, the keystrokes and > > changed their meaning as well, from 'go-to-beginning/end-of > > document' to 'goto-begin/end-of line', respectively. So, I thought, > > lets make an usability test and try to change that back. > > Why? Just use C-home and C-end. You don't need them that often, eh? That has to do with my age. I am used to Home and End jumping up and down, and I am not used to software telling me what I am supposed to, as in 'der Schwanz hat nicht mit dem Hund zu wedeln' and such ;-) > > - _is_ there a way to get to the old behaviour of and via > > custimization groups, and if so, where? > > Unlikely. Those are keystrokes. Just use > > (global-set-key [home] 'beginning-of-buffer) > (global-set-key [end] 'end-of-buffer) > > in your .emacs file. That's all. Thanks. Copied. Cool - works fine! > But why you should want it when those functions are available on > C-home and C-end escapes me. I was used to the old behaviour and I might switch to the new if I see any advantage in the new behaviour. Right now, I just feel annoyed, for no benefit, so I stick to the old. That's reasonable (in my age, y'know...) Cheers Tuomo PS. Btw, thanks for the great work on PreviewLateX, and the advice you give in c.t.t in general > -- > David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum -- Chalmers University of Technology Computing Science Eklandagatan 86, S-41296 Göteborg, Sweden tuomo@cs.chalmers.se, +46-31-772 1052 phone, +46-31-165 655 fax