Re: Customising display-fill-column-indicator-mode

[uzibalqa <uzibalqa@proton.me>]

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On Thursday, August 25th, 2022 at 7:46 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:


> > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 07:24:47 +0000
> > From: uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me
> > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > 
> > > This is not the Customize interface. You are obviously not proficient
> > > enough with Emacs Lisp, so my suggestion was to use "M-x customize-variable"
> > > instead:
> > 
> > I am working on functionalities in elisp files.
> 
> 
> Customization of Emacs for your needs doesn't have to be done in Lisp,
> and doesn't usually require any programming at all.
> 
> > Just calling me not proficient with emacs and saying adios is very
> > strange.
> 
> 
> There was no adios in what I wrote. I proposed to use a more
> user-friendly customization interface, which should work around the
> obstacles you had. There's nothing strange in suggesting easier ways
> of doing what you want; in some quarters it's considered good help.

I rejected that approach for what I want to do.  If it cannot be done
through elisp, I will reject the activation of that feature.
 
> How to specify characters in Emacs Lisp is very basic. If you want to
> do this customization in Lisp, I suggest to read the "Character Codes"
> node in the ELisp manual, it explains those basics. But your attempt
> to do this in Lisp has more problems than just specifying characters,
> so my suggestion is still to use the Customize interface, it will get
> you to the goal faster and with fewer problems.

If the Lisp part has serious problems, the thing to take from all this,
is to improve the lisp part so it will not stay so problematic.
 
> > > Feel free to submit a bug report against that theme: it evidently
> > > should define distinct colors for fill-column-indicator face. Or you
> > > could customize that face yourself, using "M-x customize-face".

Will do so.  I should have been more specific about the theme related problem.
 
> > It would be a good thing to fix. It is the origin of my problem. Was not
> > expecting having to delve into the indicator size and character. Just wanted
> > to test the indicator feature and get to an opinion of it.
> 
> 
> It is not possible to have defaults that suit everyone. Especially if
> you load non-default themes.

How is it that Emacs Maintainers, knowing very well that modus-themes is the only 
theme designed with serious accessibility standards, do not make them the default
themes.  Defaults should be designed to suit most people.  Being able to distinguish 
text and using a good enough colour contrast is technical wisdom that any developer 
worth his salt should understand and act upon.