Re: emacs and osx

[Bob Hunter <catdogbeloved@yahoo.com>]

David Kastrup wrote:
> Bob Hunter <catdogbeloved@yahoo.com> writes:
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>>Lute Kamstra wrote:
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>>>>This "editor" needs to go on diet...
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>>>We feel that it's important that you can play Tetris with Emacs.
>>>Lute.
>>>
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>>It never crossed my mind, and chances are that it never will. I always
>>wondered the real utility of those extra files. It may be the case
>>that emacs is a lisp interpreter and those are just demos?
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> Well, that describes the whole of Emacs pretty well.
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>>I would rather choose to have those "extras" than being forced to
>>like them...
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> Nobody forces you to like them.
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To have tetris in the main distribution is kind of forcing. I would 
rather choose to have it, rather than just have it.


>>I would be much happier if emacs would have a better menu (File,
>>Edit, etc.) along the lines of ... any other application.
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> One has nothing to do with the other.  And Emacs pretty much existed
> before "any other application" and will likely exist longer than the
> majority of all of them.  So it does not make too much sense to bend
> over backwards to be more similar to short-lived applications and
> fashions.  It is ok to improve Emacs, but it does not make sense to
> warp it beyond recognition.
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Oh, no, that was not my intention. Indeed, I meant a "better menu", i.e. 
one that is more intuitive, and I perceive that other applications, 
especially under osx, are *much* more intuitive. Perhaps the port of 
emacs to osx will have the added value of improved user experience? I 
very much hope so. I very, very, very, ... , very much hope so.

Bob