From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Moore Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: New frame position (FSF Emacs on Windows) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 20:37:43 +0000 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044650706 527 80.91.224.249 (7 Feb 2003 20:45:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 20:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18hFMs-00007t-00 for ; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:45:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18hFNC-0004G3-0B for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 15:45:22 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.demon.co.uk Original-X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1044650481 1323 158.152.8.30 (7 Feb 2003 20:41:21 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 20:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AHmUMy+8hfY3YJDcvuKf8Ho9mII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.090013 (Oort Gnus v0.13) XEmacs/21.5 (burdock, i586-pc-win32) Hamster/2.0.0.0 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:109930 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:6435 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:6435 I currently use XEmacs 21.5.10 on Windows (2000 and XP), mainly for news/mail via Gnus and occasionally for general editing tasks. I'm considering switching over to FSF Emacs 21.2.1, mainly because it seems to start up enormously faster. (Is this generally true, or is it just me? If it is true, what causes the difference?) Anyway, one annoying feature in FSF Emacs is that when I open a new frame (for example, with C-X 5 f) it appears in *exactly* the same position on screen as the current frame. It therefore looks like I didn't open a new frame! This behaviour does not happen in XEmacs, where new frames are created slightly offset from the current frame's present location (using what looks like the standard Windows algorithm, which works pretty well...) I've searched the documentation, and the Emacs Wiki, and I haven't found a way of getting FSF Emacs to work the same (new frame offset from the previous). The variable default-frame-alist seems to be the main method of control, but that only lets me set a fixed position - precisely the opposite of what I want! The behaviour seems to be built into the core code, as what I describe is what happens on systems with no special customisation. How can I get the frame creation behaviour I want from FSF Emacs? Thanks, Paul. PS I'm happy to write elisp code if I need to - that doesn't worry me. However, I don't know the algorithm for Windows' placement behaviour - I just know that it looks good to me. So I need more than just a description of how to make the location change. Sorry... -- This signature intentionally left blank