From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harald Hanche-Olsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What version of Lisp is running in EMACS? Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:38:14 +0200 Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193380943 21936 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2007 06:42:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:42:23 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 26 08:42:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IlItj-00050z-5t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:42:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IlIta-0005h2-J4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:42:14 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: fiinbeck.math.ntnu.no Original-X-Trace: orkan.itea.ntnu.no 1193380694 11302 129.241.15.140 (26 Oct 2007 06:38:14 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:38:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qXh8CdbrN6AW8F9C8GJgO+y6wGg= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:153329 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:48815 Archived-At: + Daniel Klein : > I am a completely new EMACS user so please be gentle. > > I need to get up to speed using Lisp (yes, I know this is not a Lisp > group). > > I'm initially going to use EMACS for Lisp development and I need to > know what Lisp version is running in EMACS. It's called Emacs lisp, or elisp among friends. (Nobody capitalizes emacs the way you did. I notice you didn't write LISP. Good!) I am not so sure that elisp is the best to learn from, if your longtime goal is to learn Common Lisp, say. There's a risk that you just end up learning elisp's idiosyncrasies instead. Maybe you really should get a Common Lisp system. Perhaps SBCL. There are also commercial lisps out there with free trial versions that are quite good. If you for something like SBCL, you can run that under Slime inside emacs. Here is a good book if you wish to learn Common Lisp: http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ On that page you will find a reference to Lispbox (gee, Lisp in a box), which just may be what you need to get stared. For more information on your options, search the comp.lang.lisp newsgroup. Questions about good systems for beginners come up regularly there. (But it's a high volume newsgroup, so you may need to work a bit with your search terms to find the info.) -- * Harald Hanche-Olsen - It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true. -- Bertrand Russell