From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harald Hanche-Olsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 19:39:36 +0200 Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178142599 3911 80.91.229.12 (2 May 2007 21:49:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:49:59 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 02 23:49:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HjMht-0004n4-70 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 23:49:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjMoK-0003wT-WB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 17:56:33 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: fiinbeck.math.ntnu.no Original-X-Trace: orkan.itea.ntnu.no 1178126922 13920 129.241.15.140 (2 May 2007 17:28:42 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 17:28:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3TgV89c1nLpfqqGnOURVmDBLECI= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147920 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 May 2007 17:51:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43543 Archived-At: + stromme@math.uib.no (Stein Arild Strømme): | I don't think even Harald used any version of emacs on those punch | cards, although I seem to recall that he did some binary code | programming, bypassing the assembler.. Not sure that I entered any actual machine code that way, but I think I did enter some binary data in this fashion, yes. I can no longer remember why. But I think I screwed it up by having a card in my deck that was punched 7+8 in the first or second column, which was used in the card reader to signify end-of-job. Oops. | Special tricks to enter non-ascii codes on those punching machines. | Were there Meta and Control keys there, or how did we do it? Did it | involve backspacing? Well, there was no ascii. Each column had room for 12 holes being from top to bottom +, -, and the digits 9-0 (in the /unlikely/ event that I remember this correctly). To punch several holes in one column, you could just put a thumb on the card so it wouldn't advance, and punch away. -- * Harald Hanche-Olsen - It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true. -- Bertrand Russell