From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "D. D. Brierton" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: GTK2 support in Emacs 21.3.1? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:12:21 +0100 Organization: DZR Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050589072 3207 80.91.224.249 (17 Apr 2003 14:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 17 16:17:47 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 196ACw-0000ow-00 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:17:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 196ACG-0001Jl-08 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:17:04 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!zen.net.uk!landlord!stones.force9.net.POSTED!not-for-mail User-Agent: Pan/0.13.3 (That cat's something I can't explain) Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.159.101.92 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@plus.net.uk Original-X-Trace: stones.force9.net 1050588671 212.159.101.92 (Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:11:11 BST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:11:11 BST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112054 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8554 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8554 On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:54:17 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > "D. D. Brierton" writes: > >> I remember that a while ago GTK2 support was committed to Emacs >> CVS. Did that make it into 21.3.1, > > No. 21.3 is a bugfix release. > >> or is it not ready for primetime yet? > > I am using it currently, but it is still the developer version with > its own sets of bugs. None that would make Emacs less stable than > typical run-of-the-mill editors, but decidedly less than customary > for Emacs. I manage an occasional core dump when doing heavy duty > work. Thanks for clarifying, David. So I guess 22.x is a more realistic timeframe for GTK2 support as standard? >> Also, is there any way yet to get Emacs 21.3.1 to use anti-aliased >> fonts that the recent versions of XFree86 allow for? > > Not even the developer version renders its main text area fonts via > GTK unless I am mistaken, so I guess the answer is no. The title bar, > menu bar and the menus themselves, however, _do_ appear antialiased to > my eye. Yes, I remember from discussions on the group that the actual main text area will probably never use GTK2/Pango for rendering text as Emacs has too many specialised requirements that simply aren't in GTK2/Pango. But ultimately the fonts themselves are being rendered by X aren't they? And antialiasing is in XFree86 itself, via freetype or Xft or something (sorry for the vagueness but the internals of X gives me the hebegebes). So can we expect at any time soon to see Emacs being able to use anti-aliased fonts? The thing is, that when none of my apps were antialiased I didn't really notice so much, but now practically everything is, Emacs is beginning to give me a headache. Relative to everything else on my screen its fonts are really hard to read. Best, Darren -- ====================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@dzr-web.com www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) ======================================================================