From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Unicode and text editors Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2024 18:55:52 +0000 Message-ID: References: <2427ab10a48abba2c811bcb01f4e74ce3832794f.camel@starynkevitch.net> <86frmyf83q.fsf@gnu.org> <861pyif205.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Heime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15870"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 08 19:56:39 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tKMSN-0003wy-9Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 19:56:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKMRr-0001xf-6i; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 13:56:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKMRk-0001x2-Hr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 13:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-40130.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.130]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKMRi-0007v3-SB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 13:56:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1733684155; x=1733943355; bh=ViFQO7UjV0XIzTlHUW+lBZY+Bnr2bMl3z3aqSi7ZduU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector:List-Unsubscribe:List-Unsubscribe-Post; b=srD1vTkUkCAgDqFXzMRkvKqaHEKvRvXZdmTag3w8HSDz5cAKSIKVbFI01KRIKW8hp iNIEr3H1rbwjDfROqmQ/TBQvtIWA7uA8F3PPHmDepymeZXwu0q30QkkANE88uEs+Kn Czb+Jp9iafMY8JiVmNDIy9A0+CVktf+NB3lFt7+A9U8gVJHn6TFXU6rEFQyflzShN7 Q5+gs2oMHhaYJmb+iZItU1sVwqPiav9FzcxJrCNhenW+3wlTGaLK51L6PX6EXotJqP LPk1R8RiB9ytGN6MeldXbAaRjo4pGDevRYLfn2EvRaW+fe/a9zPW19koO9q23j9XJF 24AXPbENfwiNg== In-Reply-To: <861pyif205.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 8cbb1bf55358d6c25d41d13b19924df13a80cd0b Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.130; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40130.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:148702 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, December 9th, 2024 at 6:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrot= e: > > Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2024 17:54:43 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > >=20 > > > > When visiting existing files it attempts to > > > > detect the encoding, and maintain it while editing. > > >=20 > > > That is correct. > >=20 > > Does this mean that we should not worry when we use UTF-8? Would > > UTF-* be supported, and detected. With the appropriate symbols showing > > as they should. >=20 >=20 > I was talking about Emacs. Your original question was about other > editors. I'm not familiar with other modern editors enough to tell > whether you should or should not worry. In particular, I don't know > how they recognize UTF-8, and am not sure that Emacs coding cookies > are supported by them. Is it reasonable to expect that UTF-* characters are recognised and support= ed? What is your school of thought regarding emacs?