From: "Alexandre Oberlin" <email_via@migo.info>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:26:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.ya6td3e3dhe6zj@tournesol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1564.1451787927.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Hi again,
On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 03:25:04 +0100, Michael Heerdegen
<michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
> With `transient-mark-mode' off, you can mark a region (i.e., turn on
> transient mark mode temporarily) by hitting C-SPC twice. Only then does
> delete-selection-mode replace the region.
AFAIK, the region is empty just after you have hit CTRL+SPACE twice, so
there is no risk of overwriting anything.
> In any other case (when the
> region is not visible, i.e. not active) transient-mark-mode is just off,
> and delete-selection-mode should not delete the region, never.
But it does, often.
> So I think the behavior he sometimes gets could indeed be a bug. Would
> be good to have a bug report, and it would be good if Alexandre would
> try to find a recipe so that we can find out what's going on (this could
> also be caused by some add on package) and fix the issue when necessary.
On some occasions the behavior changed after coming back from suspend...
I usually navigate in Emacs using the arrow keys and isearch rather than
kidding around with the mouse and wheel. I can't stand transient mode
because with it I must spend a significant portion of my typing trying to
get rid of annoying highlighting. I must press CTRL+SPACE twice in a row
to avoid highlighting and selecting stuff when moving or isearching.
Moreover, as I already stressed, pressing CTRL+SPACE twice is also
necessary to be SURE not to overwrite a non highlighted region in some
still undefined but frequent circumstances, so I’d better not forget about
it. THIS IS A TERRIBLE ERRATIC BUG IN EMACS.
Allowing the user to make selections and define active region without
pressing SHIFT is extremely valuable as an accessibility feature for a
person having definitely or temporarily lost the use of one hand. It is in
the same vein as allowing selection of multiple check boxes without
pressing SHIFT and is great for persons with such handicaps. However those
should be accessibility features, and I don't think that making arrows
keys select text by default in Emacs is an extremely brilliant idea.
To conclude, I would like to emphasize:
A) that it happens on quite different versions/systems, e.g. Cygwin and
Ubuntu Live.
B) that I can’t afford spending hours or days on this.
Cheers,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-13 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-24 1:01 Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text Alexandre Oberlin
2015-12-24 1:37 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-24 13:27 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2015-12-24 23:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-25 1:18 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.529.1451006347.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 21:40 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 22:03 ` Marcin Borkowski
[not found] ` <mailman.1550.1451772215.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 22:28 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 23:04 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.1551.1451775915.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03 0:11 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-03 0:28 ` Michael Heerdegen
[not found] ` <mailman.1554.1451780942.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03 0:41 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-03 1:07 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03 2:10 ` Robert Thorpe
2016-01-03 2:11 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03 2:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03 3:10 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03 3:21 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03 4:09 ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-03 5:08 ` Random832
[not found] ` <mailman.1572.1451797753.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:13 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.2334.1452780465.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 15:35 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 16:11 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 17:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 16:36 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-14 16:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.2341.1452787916.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 16:45 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 17:05 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.2359.1452800411.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 23:41 ` Alexandre Oberlin
[not found] ` <mailman.1570.1451794187.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 16:42 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-13 17:54 ` Yuri Khan
[not found] ` <mailman.2302.1452707668.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 13:57 ` Alexandre Oberlin
[not found] ` <mailman.1564.1451787927.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:26 ` Alexandre Oberlin [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.528.1450998293.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 14:00 ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-24 5:48 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-24 14:40 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-12-27 22:15 ` Robert Thorpe
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