From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alexandre Oberlin" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why is it not possible to use "nil" any more in init files ? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:45:24 +0100 Organization: http://www.migo.info Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417035029 17927 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2014 20:50:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 20:50:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 26 21:50:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XtjXY-0006o0-S4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:50:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35982 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtjXY-0002V4-Gl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:50:20 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!news.ecp.fr!news.muarf.org!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed4-a.proxad.net!nnrp6-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) Original-Lines: 46 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Nov 2014 21:45:31 CET Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.215.178.88 Original-X-Trace: 1417034731 news-1.free.fr 12771 80.215.178.88:46612 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:208950 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101230 Archived-At: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:15:12 +0100, Phillip Lord = wrote: > This is somewhere in between. I certainly used to do > (add-hook 'blah 'wanted-mode) > which generally works. > Then I found out about > (add-hook 'blah 'turn-on-wanted-mode) > which works better. But many people did the former. Now it works > correctly as well. Looks like there is a huge difference with the new minor mode setting = issue: the above adds clarity and does not break any backward = compatibility, so it is a good move, just like x-get-selection should be= = be preferred to x-selection in new code, but x-selection still works. = This approach of adding more specific and unambiguous function names = without breaking anything could perfectly have been used for the mode = setting issue. Taking enriched-mode (which I use all the time) as an = example, one could have added: (set-enriched-mode) and (unset-enriched-mode) while leaving the intrinsically ambiguous (enriched-mode) toggling as we= ll = in evaluation as interactively. > I don't understand why you can't seem to see that > it's a compromise that advantages many. This reminds me of parents who don=E2=80=99t understand why they should = be strict = with their kid, when laxity brings contentment to the kid and peace to = themselves... for some time ;-) Cheers, Alexandre