From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alexandre Oberlin" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Enriched mode: avoid removing my manual indents Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 16:15:55 +0200 Organization: http://www.migo.info Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369674439 18073 80.91.229.3 (27 May 2013 17:07:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 17:07:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 27 19:07:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uh0tD-00014d-NW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 19:07:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40864 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uh0tD-0001gf-5Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2013 13:07:19 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe08.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Linux) Original-Lines: 85 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@teranews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 14:15:52 UTC X-Received-Bytes: 2825 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:198824 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 May 2013 13:06:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:91091 Archived-At: Thanks Drew for your reply. Maybe this behavior is not a bug but it is = certainly confusing to me. I can use C-x TAB "increase-left-margin" of course, but then it changes = = the indentation of the whole previous paragraph! Typing RET or explicite= ly = calling open-line does not seem to create a paragraph boundary. In order= = to create a new paragraph with a new indentation, it seems that I must: 1. type a series of RET (to be able to navigate afterwards without typin= g = RET); 2. go to the first line in this series; 3. indent as desired and type text; 4. go to the next line using down arrow (RET would fall back to the = previous indentation); 5. type TAB to apply the same indentation as the previous line and type = = text. Ain=E2=80=99t this a bit awkward ? Alexandre On Mon, 27 May 2013 15:25:46 +0200, Drew Adams = = wrote: >> I just don=E2=80=99t get the rationale of it and why it is so hard to= disable. = >> All >> I want from enriched mode is persistent colors/bold/italic, otherwise= = >> the >> standard indentation behavior of fundamental-mode and text-mode is OK= = >> for >> me. I tried indent-to-column, use-hard-newlines and indented-text-mod= e >> with no avail. Maybe I should try org-mode but I don=E2=80=99t have s= o much time >> to learn such things. >> > >> > I use enriched mode extensively but if I start a new line say on = >> column >> > 8, then why does enriched mode think that is an error and put it ba= ck = >> to >> > beginning of line as soon as I type return ? > > You can use `M-x report-emacs-bug' to submit an enhancement request. = If = > enriched mode couples indenting text with coloring it, and the two = > cannot be dissociated, that sounds like something that could be improv= ed. > > It's best to give a complete and simple recipe to repro the problemati= c = > behavior, starting from `emacs -Q'. > -- = Alexandre Oberlin http://www.migo.info