From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kl811af@sun2.lrz-muenchen.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: german umlauts vs. meta key Date: 09 Mar 2008 02:52:20 +0100 Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Message-ID: References: <87r6ewqk6v.fsf@hfph.mwn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205038148 28711 80.91.229.12 (9 Mar 2008 04:49:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 04:49:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 05:49:36 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYDTW-0006U0-Pf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:49:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYDSy-0005Hq-ON for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:48:56 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!lrz.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 55 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: sun2.lrz-muenchen.de Original-X-Trace: news.lrz-muenchen.de 1205027541 4228 129.187.23.2 (9 Mar 2008 01:52:21 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@lrz-muenchen.de Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 01:52:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:156801 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:48:38 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52175 Archived-At: Peter Dyballa writes: > Which prehistoric version of GNU Emacs are you trying to use? 21.4.1 (released 2005!) > Up-to- date version 22.1 accepts German umlauts directly from the > keyboard, it even can handle Unicode. No particular input method is > needed. At the moment unfortunately I can't move to that version. > And the URL you gave is out of time, part of a museum. But still valid for 21.4.1, isn't it. > You could try this behaviour by launching GNU Emacs with the -Q > argument. Then no init will be loaded and you could insert whatever > you want directly into the *scratch* buffer, for example. Under 21.4.1 this doesn't allow to input umlauts. > You might also think of customising X11 such that your keyboard > emits particular characters (ž  for example) when holding the alt > key. So in case you're using a keyboard with an US layout, alt-# or > such could produce ä. Except for emacs in an xterminal I don't have problems to input umlauts. > > Another explanation of the problem I found is that under the console > > C-s disables input and C-q reenables it - which indeed is the case, > > but doesn't make much sense under a xterminal, does it? (XEmacs does > > not interpret C-s and C-q this way.) > > How can it? It's the terminal that steals the input event which was > passed to it via X11. If the terminal emulation has no use for a > certain input it passes it further to some shell interpreter or > programme running in it. > > ^S/^Q are part of the software handshake. Just switch it off with stty! But in XEmacs and Emacs without the code snippet I need to input the umlauts ^S/^Q work without problem the emacs way. Thanks for you help and suggestions, but as I'm stuck with 21.4 I still would like to have emacs to accept umlauts *and* all basic emacs commands. Any suggestion? Thanks again Andreas -- Andreas Goesele