* How to start shell and rename the buffer
@ 2009-01-15 12:43 Decebal
2009-01-15 12:48 ` Decebal
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From: Decebal @ 2009-01-15 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
I sometimes want to start emacs with a shell, but I also want to
rename the default name '*shell*'.
I have:
emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell) (rename-buffer "shell")'
But the buffername is not renamed.
In *Messages* I see:
(emacs --eval (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))
And not an error or a warning.
If I do 'M-:' and then '(rename-buffer "shell")' the buffer is
renamed.
What am I doing wrong?
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
2009-01-15 12:43 How to start shell and rename the buffer Decebal
@ 2009-01-15 12:48 ` Decebal
2009-01-15 13:49 ` Decebal
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From: Decebal @ 2009-01-15 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 15 jan, 13:43, Decebal <CLDWester...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I sometimes want to start emacs with a shell, but I also want to
> rename the default name '*shell*'.
> I have:
> emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell) (rename-buffer "shell")'
>
> But the buffername is not renamed.
> In *Messages* I see:
> (emacs --eval (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))
>
> And not an error or a warning.
> If I do 'M-:' and then '(rename-buffer "shell")' the buffer is
> renamed.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
I am using version 21.3 off Emacs, I can not change that.
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
2009-01-15 12:43 How to start shell and rename the buffer Decebal
2009-01-15 12:48 ` Decebal
@ 2009-01-15 13:49 ` Decebal
2009-01-16 4:52 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-01-15 14:23 ` tyler
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From: Decebal @ 2009-01-15 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 15 jan, 13:43, Decebal <CLDWester...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I sometimes want to start emacs with a shell, but I also want to
> rename the default name '*shell*'.
> I have:
> emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell) (rename-buffer "shell")'
>
> But the buffername is not renamed.
> In *Messages* I see:
> (emacs --eval (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))
>
> And not an error or a warning.
> If I do 'M-:' and then '(rename-buffer "shell")' the buffer is
> renamed.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
I found a way:
emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell "shell")'
The only problem with this is that both the '*scratch*' and the
'shell' buffer are displayed. Not a big problem, but is it possible to
have only the 'shell' buffer displayed?
I found a way around my problem, but I am still interested why the
first way does not work. ;-}
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
2009-01-15 12:43 How to start shell and rename the buffer Decebal
2009-01-15 12:48 ` Decebal
2009-01-15 13:49 ` Decebal
@ 2009-01-15 14:23 ` tyler
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2009-01-15 15:34 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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From: tyler @ 2009-01-15 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Decebal <CLDWesterhof@gmail.com> writes:
> I sometimes want to start emacs with a shell, but I also want to
> rename the default name '*shell*'.
> I have:
> emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell) (rename-buffer "shell")'
>
> But the buffername is not renamed.
> In *Messages* I see:
> (emacs --eval (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))
>
> And not an error or a warning.
> If I do 'M-:' and then '(rename-buffer "shell")' the buffer is
> renamed.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
This works for me:
emacs -title mytitle --eval '(progn (shell) (rename-buffer "myshell"))'
I guess the --eval flag runs only the first complete command, requiring
the (progn ...) to do both. Just guessing, though.
Tyler
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
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@ 2009-01-15 14:37 ` Decebal
2009-01-15 14:40 ` Teemu Likonen
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From: Decebal @ 2009-01-15 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 15 jan, 15:23, tyler <tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca> wrote:
> > I sometimes want to start emacs with a shell, but I also want to
> > rename the default name '*shell*'.
> > I have:
> > emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell) (rename-buffer "shell")'
>
> > But the buffername is not renamed.
> > In *Messages* I see:
> > (emacs --eval (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))
>
> > And not an error or a warning.
> > If I do 'M-:' and then '(rename-buffer "shell")' the buffer is
> > renamed.
>
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> This works for me:
>
> emacs -title mytitle --eval '(progn (shell) (rename-buffer "myshell"))'
Works for me also. Thanks.
> I guess the --eval flag runs only the first complete command, requiring
> the (progn ...) to do both. Just guessing, though.
Souns logical. When I want to do more as one command, I'll use progn.
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
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2009-01-15 14:37 ` Decebal
@ 2009-01-15 14:40 ` Teemu Likonen
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From: Teemu Likonen @ 2009-01-15 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tyler; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
tyler (2009-01-15 10:23 -0400) wrote:
> This works for me:
>
> emacs -title mytitle --eval '(progn (shell) (rename-buffer "myshell"))'
>
> I guess the --eval flag runs only the first complete command,
> requiring the (progn ...) to do both. Just guessing, though.
That is true. An example:
$ emacs --batch -Q --eval '(message "one") (message "two")'
one
So either wrap the commands inside a form which allows separate commands
(progn, let, ...) or use separate --eval options:
$ emacs --batch -Q --eval '(progn (message "one") (message "two"))'
one
two
$ emacs --batch -Q --eval '(message "one")' --eval '(message "two")'
one
two
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
2009-01-15 12:43 How to start shell and rename the buffer Decebal
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@ 2009-01-15 15:34 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2009-01-15 16:51 ` Michael Albinus
2009-01-16 10:58 ` Decebal
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From: Pascal J. Bourguignon @ 2009-01-15 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Decebal <CLDWesterhof@gmail.com> writes:
> I sometimes want to start emacs with a shell, but I also want to
> rename the default name '*shell*'.
http://darcs.informatimago.com/emacs/pjb-shell.el
> I have:
> emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell) (rename-buffer "shell")'
>
> But the buffername is not renamed.
> In *Messages* I see:
> (emacs --eval (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))
>
> And not an error or a warning.
> If I do 'M-:' and then '(rename-buffer "shell")' the buffer is
> renamed.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
You're assuming that --eval will loop. If that had been the case, it
would have been called --eval-loop. Instead it is called --eval, and
therefore it only does that.
When you want to group several expressionsions in a sequence, you must
use prog1, prog2 or in general, progn:
emacs --eval '(progn (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))'
But since you don't pass -q, emacs will read your ~/.emacs, so you
can as well put there a function such as:
(defun shell-and-rename (name)
(interactive "sName: ")
(shell)
(rename-buffer name))
and then:
emacs --eval '(shell-and-rename "shell")'
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
2009-01-15 15:34 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
@ 2009-01-15 16:51 ` Michael Albinus
2009-01-16 10:58 ` Decebal
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From: Michael Albinus @ 2009-01-15 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes:
> emacs --eval '(progn (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))'
What's about
emacs --eval '(shell "shell")'
Best regards, Michael.
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
2009-01-15 13:49 ` Decebal
@ 2009-01-16 4:52 ` Kevin Rodgers
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From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2009-01-16 4:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Decebal wrote:
> On 15 jan, 13:43, Decebal <CLDWester...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I sometimes want to start emacs with a shell, but I also want to
>> rename the default name '*shell*'.
>> I have:
>> emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell) (rename-buffer "shell")'
>>
>> But the buffername is not renamed.
>> In *Messages* I see:
>> (emacs --eval (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))
>>
>> And not an error or a warning.
>> If I do 'M-:' and then '(rename-buffer "shell")' the buffer is
>> renamed.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>
> I found a way:
> emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(shell "shell")'
>
> The only problem with this is that both the '*scratch*' and the
> 'shell' buffer are displayed. Not a big problem, but is it possible to
> have only the 'shell' buffer displayed?
Because shell calls pop-to-buffer, whose doc string says:
Select buffer buffer in some window, preferably a different one.
...
If `pop-up-windows' is non-nil, windows can be split to do this.
Try:
emacs -title ${TITLE} --eval '(let ((pop-up-windows nil)) (shell "shell"))'
> I found a way around my problem, but I am still interested why the
> first way does not work. ;-}
The --eval command line option calls the eval function, which takes
exactly 1 argument (a lisp form).
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
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* Re: How to start shell and rename the buffer
2009-01-15 15:34 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2009-01-15 16:51 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2009-01-16 10:58 ` Decebal
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From: Decebal @ 2009-01-16 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Jan 15, 4:34 pm, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
wrote:
> You're assuming that --eval will loop. If that had been the case, it
> would have been called --eval-loop. Instead it is called --eval, and
> therefore it only does that.
>
> When you want to group several expressionsions in a sequence, you must
> use prog1, prog2 or in general, progn:
>
> emacs --eval '(progn (shell) (rename-buffer "shell"))'
I allready did this.
> But since you don't pass -q, emacs will read your ~/.emacs, so you
> can as well put there a function such as:
>
> (defun shell-and-rename (name)
> (interactive "sName: ")
> (shell)
> (rename-buffer name))
>
> and then:
>
> emacs --eval '(shell-and-rename "shell")'
In principal a good idea, but it is done in a script. At the moment I
am the only one using the script, but you never know, so I like to
keep the dependicies as low as possible.
I am also thinking about:
emacs --eval '(shell)' --eval '(rename-buffer "shell")'
or
emacs --eval '(shell)'\
--eval '(rename-buffer "shell")'
I think that is more clear.
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