From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Reply to list [was: Different key maps in different dired buffers] Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:44:36 +0300 Organization: Gnus News User Services Message-ID: References: <20160527070959.GB27615@tuxteam.de> <83mvnc0vze.fsf@gnu.org> <83pos7z6gv.fsf@gnu.org> <86zir1n347.fsf@student.uu.se> <8660tpmztw.fsf@student.uu.se> <87porxkl2r.fsf@quux> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1465131036 3769 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2016 12:50:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:50:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 05 14:50:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b9XVc-0003rW-42 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 14:50:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36996 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b9XVb-0001Me-Bk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 08:50:27 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uio.no!quimby.gnus.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 57 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 178.218.27.218 Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1465130678 18619 178.218.27.218 (5 Jun 2016 12:44:38 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:44:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; GNU x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:218006 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110314 Archived-At: On 04/06/16 22:41, Bob Proulx wrote: > Yes. I have tried to determine why this is before. I don't think it > is on Emanuel's end. I did not imply it either, of course. However, if the problematic software or service might be avoided, it’d better be avoided, I believe. But it have to be found first, of course. > Details follow Good investigation. :-) > There is no In-Reply-To on the follow-up. Only the References header > can be used for threading. Checking through the references in the > place of my message 20160603195221435910074@bob.proulx.com I see > mailman.789.1465006376.1216.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org instead. That > appears to be the point where threading gets broken. Something > appears to have converted one message id into another one. > > <...> > > Again Gnus and News. Can't tell. > > Ah! Here is one. Another example of a broken mail link. > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2016-02/threads.html#00390 > > Original: > > From: Eli Zaretskii > Message-Id: <83mvqmd1mo.fsf@gnu.org> > References: <2b5da096-ab4d-4803-9a62-dbed5c036514@googlegroups.com> > > Follow-up: > > From: Vladimir Panteleev > Message-ID: <9f89c7fe-19e2-4d24-89f9-630d830f8b67@googlegroups.com> > Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:217048 > References: <2b5da096-ab4d-4803-9a62-dbed5c036514@googlegroups.com> > > In-Reply-To: > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > > What User-Agent is represented by "G2/1.0"? From the ‘Path’ header I can guess that this is Google Groups web interface [0]. [0] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gnu.emacs.help > Since that isn't Gnus it would seem to let Gnus off the hook. The > commonality is the Stanford news gateway. The converted message id is > of the same form. Looks to be the same problem. Does not include > Gnus so seems to implicate the Stanford newsgroup gateway. I’ll try to post this message to ‘gnu.emacs.help‘ via a proper news server (news.gnus.org) and not with Gnus, let see what will happen.