* Re: What is the difference between C-g and M-x keyboard-quit?
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@ 2015-09-15 21:31 ` Dan Espen
2015-09-16 6:27 ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Dan Espen @ 2015-09-15 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> there /must/ be some difference, since C-g beeps and M-x keyboard-quit
> does not. What is the reason for that? What is exactly the difference?
C-h k C-g seems clear enough:
It is bound to C-g.
(keyboard-quit)
Signal a `quit' condition.
During execution of Lisp code, this character causes a quit directly.
At top-level, as an editor command, this simply beeps.
--
Dan Espen
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* Re: What is the difference between C-g and M-x keyboard-quit?
2015-09-15 21:31 ` What is the difference between C-g and M-x keyboard-quit? Dan Espen
@ 2015-09-16 6:27 ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2015-09-16 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
> Signal a `quit' condition.
> During execution of Lisp code, this character causes a quit directly.
> At top-level, as an editor command, this simply beeps.
But if you look at the code, you see that
(signal 'quit nil)
is always executed. If you get a beep depends on whether the quit
is caught. But the behavior should be independent from how you invoke
`keyboard-quit' in one and the same context - either the quit signal
gets caught (no beep) or it isn't (beep).
Michael.
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* What is the difference between C-g and M-x keyboard-quit?
@ 2015-09-15 20:23 Marcin Borkowski
2015-09-15 23:25 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-09-15 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all,
there /must/ be some difference, since C-g beeps and M-x keyboard-quit
does not. What is the reason for that? What is exactly the difference?
TIA,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
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* Re: What is the difference between C-g and M-x keyboard-quit?
2015-09-15 20:23 Marcin Borkowski
@ 2015-09-15 23:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-16 6:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-16 7:11 ` Bob Proulx
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-09-15 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
> there /must/ be some difference, since C-g beeps and
> M-x keyboard-quit does not. What is the reason for
> that? What is exactly the difference?
Use the source, Luke! (if you can figure it out...)
The help has already been quoted, but for me, with
beeping enabled and 'emacs -Q', (keyboard-quit) beeps
regardless how I invoke it ("from Lisp" and with M-x).
Here is how to disable the beeping - and enabling, for
the sake of testing:
# in X
xset -b
xset b on
# Linux VT (virtual terminal)/console/tty
setterm -term linux -blength 0 > `tty` # or, e.g., /dev/tty1
setterm -term linux -blength 100 > `tty` # 0 and 100 are durations
--
underground experts united
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* Re: What is the difference between C-g and M-x keyboard-quit?
2015-09-15 20:23 Marcin Borkowski
2015-09-15 23:25 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2015-09-16 6:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-16 7:11 ` Bob Proulx
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From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2015-09-16 6:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
> there /must/ be some difference, since C-g beeps and M-x keyboard-quit
> does not. What is the reason for that? What is exactly the
> difference?
In what situation does that happen for you? At top level? C-g is not
always bound to `keyboard-quit', in some cases, it has a different
binding.
Regards,
Michael.
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* Re: What is the difference between C-g and M-x keyboard-quit?
2015-09-15 20:23 Marcin Borkowski
2015-09-15 23:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-16 6:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2015-09-16 7:11 ` Bob Proulx
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From: Bob Proulx @ 2015-09-16 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> there /must/ be some difference, since C-g beeps and M-x keyboard-quit
> does not. What is the reason for that? What is exactly the difference?
For me M-x keyboard-quit beeps identically to C-g. I wonder why your
M-x keyboard-quit does not beep?
Here is some trivia. If you run emacs in a terminal and then send
that terminal emacs the INT signal 2 then it will beep and report
"Quit" in minibuffer just the same as C-g. C-g is really just the
same as a tty interrupt. I am specific about in a terminal because an
X graphics emacs receiving signal 2 INT exits.
Bob
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