From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Espen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 15:13:09 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <873891sgaw.fsf@debian.uxu> <87oarp9sk4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87k32caad9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417464925 25904 80.91.229.3 (1 Dec 2014 20:15:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:15:25 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 01 21:15:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XvXNO-0007mA-5Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:15:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33704 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvXNN-00069n-M5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 15:15:17 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="61a1e09a5dd16679b5767d77eb99504d"; logging-data="15619"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ksvMTXQ8NPpUg7/1dIayPQYOqNAb+IBE=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9/wi1MZTHbiUVmMykxOkYK8CDlI= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:209079 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101358 Archived-At: Rostislav Svoboda writes: >> 1. I don't know much about it >> 2. It's bad. > > In general this argumentation may appear in a new light if one restates > it as: > > 1. I don't know much about it, because it is/looks too complicated > and/or hard to learn. Strangely enough, those are not the complaints I see. Number one is "unix philosophy", followed closely by monolithic. Of course one program than changes dozens of scripts to data files is monolithic. But I don't hear anyone saying they used to be able to do "x" in a script and systemd can't do the same. In fact, systemd was able to duplicate the function of all those scrupts. > Take as an example the crontab editing. Not really that complicated > but definitely nothing for a newbie. (BTW I just opened it using > nano, so from now on nano is my default crontab editor - and now I > gotta figure out how to undo this setting. Whata shot in a leg!) I just used nano to open my "cron.linux" file. To special joy at all. Then I tried x.cron but nano didn't seem excited. However, emacs does something useful with the comments at the end of my cron.linux file: # Local Variables: # compile-command: "crontab ~/cron.linux" # End: -- Dan Espen