From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Slass Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: (Newbie) How to turn AutoFill-mode on/off Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:56:39 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3PQD9.121756$QZ.20321@sccrnsc02> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038081816 25326 80.91.224.249 (23 Nov 2002 20:03:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 20:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18FgV2-0006a9-00 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:03:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18FgSr-0002Cw-00; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 15:01:17 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-Lines: 70 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.228.27.239 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com Original-X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1038081399 12.228.27.239 (Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:56:39 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:56:39 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:107335 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3890 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3890 Elaine Sims writes: > >I'm a writer. And I have just started learning Xemacs and have found >that it's editing capabilities are superior to any wordprocessor I've >ever used. (like C-x-t, C-x-e, C-t, etc,etc). > >But the problem is: typing in text-mode and seeing the little arrow >at the end of the line and the breaks mid-word is a distraction. I'm >much more comfortable looking at the screen in auto-fill mode. > >But then if I open the text in a word processor (AbiWord, Word) it >retains the line breaks, which I have to manually delete to reform >the paragraphs. If I have to do that to a 100,000 word manuscript >I'll go crazy. > >Actually the only reason I'm opening the file at all in a word >processor is because I haven't learned how to format and print out my >manuscripts from Xemacs (with double spacing and headers and page >numbers) yet. > >If I could do it all from within Xemacs that would be preferrable. > >And I'm not adverse to learning a little LISP to do it. > >Any help I can get would be appreciated. > >Thanks. > >Elaine > OK. You should learn LaTeX. It has a fairly steep learning curve, but it is the standard UNIX way of producing typeset documents, and there's a very good reason. The standard LaTeX styles produce all the things you mention above, and many more, and there are additional style files to do anything else you can think of. Your document will consist of your words and strings of commands to LaTeX. The length of your lines will be irrelevant, because LaTeX will typeset each paragraph appropriately, so you can turn on auto-fill at a width that's comfortable for you during editing, and not think about it any more. You will *definitely* need a copy of Leslie Lamport's book: _LaTeX: A Document Preparation System_ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201529831/qid=1038080753/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/104-7996619-8519144 Also, you will be very happy with auctex-mode, an elisp package designed to facilitate preparation of LaTeX documents. It may or may not have been included with your distrubution of emacs, but you can find it and instructions for installing it by google-ing for auctex.el. AucTex lets you control all of your document preparation from within emacs. LaTeX is not WYSIWYG -- there is a cycle of edit, compile, view to see how your document will look, but with a reasonably fast computer (the thesis I'm not writing at this moment while I'm chatting with you is 25K words, and renders in about 20sec on my P3 450) the cycle is not unduly long. The web is full of LaTeX tutorials, and comp.text.tex has a large and knowledgeable reader base. Good luck. -- Mike Slass