From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Bush Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:01:49 GMT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Message-ID: References: <54321A2A-3F36-4416-B473-49AC11FF057F@gmail.com> <792D87C1-B9A9-495E-9335-7139845D1CB0@gmail.com> <85fyo4zvei.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sls47lvd.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <85wthftsme.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <854q4ip5vd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85irsxnjax.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85sls0l675.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85irsvgghc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136872997 6215 80.91.229.2 (10 Jan 2006 06:03:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 10 07:03:16 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EwCbC-00012r-MY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:03:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EwCdA-0007v2-CK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:05:16 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmedia!news-server.columbus.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.socal.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sWIqN57IeHt+0+R3XaUVg0/PFf0= Original-Lines: 22 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.49.173.73 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com Original-X-Trace: tornado.socal.rr.com 1136872909 67.49.173.73 (Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:01:49 PST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:01:49 PST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:136953 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32568 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Sure. A bunch of baloney filtered through usability labs might still > be a bunch of baloney. I was just talking about > "established/fledgling", and that is, free or nonfree, a difficult > position to start with. Lots of free software has been able to pull > this off because of the single advantage of being free. Yes. I also agree that the idea of "Let's just do it, and try to get legal papers for it later" has no place in free software. Any software however trivial, which purports to be free, but which cannot trace it's pedigree completely provides a handle that a copy-rite attorney could use to throw the whole FSF into question. Doesn't matter if the rest of the software's clean. The case could simply be litigated to the point of bankruptcy for the FSF. Here's a question: Why hasn't Apple itself 'prettied-up' Emacs? It's not like they have neither the time, nor the ability to do so. I seem to recall (though I could be wrong) that OSX itself is a 'prettied-up' HMI wrapper around BSD. -Joe