From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lee Sau Dan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What did you do with Emacs!!!!! Date: 09 Apr 2003 08:33:56 +0200 Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3E89C1FE.8143540@spam.de> <873cl0t27j.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> <87fzots83v.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cn-big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049870803 17110 80.91.224.249 (9 Apr 2003 06:46:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 06:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 08:46:42 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1939M2-0004Rq-00 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 08:46:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1939LO-0007f3-04 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 02:46:02 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!feed.news.nacamar.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: savona.informatik.uni-freiburg.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:111807 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8307 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8307 >>>>> "Phillip" == Phillip Lord writes: Phillip> It depends how he is using Emacs. An emacspeak interface Phillip> would work well within both. However there is still an Phillip> advantage to using a windowing version of emacs, as Phillip> simply moving between the emacs window and other windows Phillip> will be easier, as it will have the correct title, that Phillip> is "emacs" instead of "xterm", or "command prompt" or Phillip> whatever. Wouldn't the command prompt (and many other programs) be enhanced by being run from within an Emacs window? At least, Emacsspeak would handle these without further configurations! :) Phillip> Most of the speech interfaces out there do actually Phillip> reflect the visual interface. Many of the windows ones Phillip> for instance, when they are reading text will only read Phillip> what is actually on screen. Hence the blind user still Phillip> needs functionality to minimize and maximize windows, Phillip> rather than just move between them, even though you might Phillip> have though this was a purely visual cue. I hope there won't be 3-D animated colourful icons on their desktops. (And a dancing paperclip would certainly be confusing for these people.) -- Lee Sau Dan §õ¦u´°(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ) E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee