From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: simple editor required Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:00:06 -0700 Organization: Still searching... Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1K1Da.3886$7E.44637@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <84of1c78ka.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054922508 29646 80.91.224.249 (6 Jun 2003 18:01:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 06 20:01:44 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OLX5-0007hh-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 20:01:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OLYp-0008TI-15 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OLYJ-00088L-PI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:02:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OLW6-0007M0-Q5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:00:43 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OLW0-0007CM-65 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:00:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OLTF-0007NZ-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:57:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OLTC-0007N8-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:57:42 +0200 Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HUB1IYfpIHt8xQ9MeyHRYuPmwXw= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:10726 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:10726 "Paul Edwards" writes: > Particularly frustrating is when something like the "del" key > doesn't do what I expect (not just what I expect, but what other > versions of emacs do when the appropriate command is > given). As I turn up to a new job, don't know how to use vi, > and it appears that I don't even know how to delete a character. > If I have micro-emacs (or emacs was consistent between > versions so my .emacs did the right thing), it wouldn't be a > problem. Sounds like you need to bone up on vi before you go much further with your employment quests. An employer expecting you to know vi isn't asking a terrible lot after all. Or expecting an employee to know about basic OS stuff like setting the erase character in shell.. really isn't asking a terrible lot either. Both are very basic tools of the trade. If you can't or won't learn them you probably need a different trade. Not to be snotty but your post comes off like a cry baby who can't do his job. A couple of evenings spent with a vi tutorial will get you lined out. Then start worrying about customizing emacs or changing defaults. Many basic unix books have vi sections.