From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Another 'best' practices question ?? Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:41:25 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1178214443.3172.18.camel@CASE> <463A22EF.7060707@gmail.com> <1178220921.3172.31.camel@CASE> <463ACED2.3000006@physik.hu-berlin.de> <87hcqsd34h.fsf@moley.org> <878xc41l5p.fsf@moley.org> Reply-To: tromey@redhat.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178305278 3868 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 19:01:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:01:18 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 21:01:17 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk31o-0005Qb-M0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:01:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk38T-0000KG-GM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk384-0007zO-5w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk382-0007qV-1A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:07:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk381-0007oW-G2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk31L-00065G-Lp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:00:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk319-0002Q9-Qd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:00:35 +0200 Original-Received: from 207.189.196.61 ([207.189.196.61]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:00:35 +0200 Original-Received: from tromey by 207.189.196.61 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 21:00:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.189.196.61 X-Attribution: Tom User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QszbxbRfp69aMEwYMLwx6dc9Flc= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43689 Archived-At: >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Tennant writes: Sebastian> In get-board-wget: Sebastian> sudoku.el:1258:18:Warning: reference to free variable `sudoku-wget-process' Sebastian> In get-board-w3: Sebastian> sudoku.el:1281:7:Warning: url-retrieve called with 1 argument, but requires 2-3 These both look like buglets in sudoku.el -- the first due to how it defines sudoku-wget-process and the second just some sort of oversight (or perhaps reliance on some old version of url, I didn't look). Sebastian> Regarding ELPA, a couple of suggestions if I may be so bold: Sebastian> 1. How about 'installed' rather than in the status column. I made a note. I chose blank because it looks sort of busy with "installed". But I don't really know what is best -- "installed" is clearer. Sebastian> 2. A hint as to how to run the newly installed package (not in the Sebastian> description because there isn't room, but somewhere). For Sebastian> instance, having installed sudoku in a snip, I then had to Sebastian> navigate to the source file and read the commentary to find out Sebastian> that I had to eval (require 'sudoku') before I was good to go. Yeah, this is a problem. I don't really know what to do about it. For most packages, package.el will extract ";;;###autoload" comments and make those available at package-activation time. But I see I didn't add these to sudoku.el :(. If you try the bubbles game you can see it in action a bit more clearly: it will download, install, and activate the game, and then you can just do M-x bubbles. Sebastian> 3. 'g' in the Package buffer is described as 'revert'. Sebastian> Is this not better described as 'refresh'? In 0.4 I'm using "refresh" for the 'r' option. "g" is "revert" by analogy with dired or buffer-menu -- it undoes local changes but does not download a new copy of the archive contents. Tom