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From: Jesper Harder <harder@myrealbox.com>
Subject: Re: multi-line conditionals in elisp
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 04:17:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3el8814x4.fsf@defun.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: x5u1h5d59a.fsf@lola.goethe.zz

David Kastrup <David.Kastrup@t-online.de> writes:

> Michael Powe <michael+gnus@trollope.org> writes:
>
>> well, i'm ignorant and you are a jerk.  which one of us is worse off?
>> hint: i don't think it's me.  i can learn what i don't know,
>
> Not if you piss off the people that could teach you.  Score adjusted.

  When it shall really be possible to lead a person to a specific
  place, one first of all has to be careful to find where he is and
  start from there.

  This is the secret of the art of helping.  Anyone who is not able to
  do so is simply seducing himself into believing that he is able to
  help others.

  To really help another person I must understand more than him but
  first of all understand what he understands.

  When I don't do this my superior understanding does not help him at
  all.

  Yet when I start to impose my superior understanding, then it is
  because of my vanity and pride, in that I don't really want to help
  him but wish him to admire me instead.  But all true help begins
  with humility.

  The helper must first humble himself to the one he wishes to help
  and thereby understand that helping is not to rule but to serve.
  That helping is not being the most domineering but the most patient.
  That helping is willingness to tolerate, for the present, being
  wrong and not understanding what the other understands.

       -- Søren Kierkegaard, Brudstykke af en ligefrem meddelelse

'nuff said!

(and apologies for my translation which doesn't really do justice to the
eloquence of the original).

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-24  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-22 19:00 multi-line conditionals in elisp Michael Powe
2002-12-22 19:12 ` David Kastrup
2002-12-22 22:48   ` Michael Powe
2002-12-22 23:05     ` David Kastrup
2002-12-24  3:17       ` Jesper Harder [this message]
     [not found] ` <michael+gnus@trollope.org>
2002-12-22 19:21   ` Peter S Galbraith
     [not found] ` <mailman.524.1040584903.19936.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2002-12-22 22:40   ` Michael Powe

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