From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: simple editor required Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:36:50 -0700 Organization: Still searching... Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1K1Da.3886$7E.44637@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <84of1c78ka.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054949784 3540 80.91.224.249 (7 Jun 2003 01:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 01:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 07 03:36:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OSd5-0000ux-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 03:36:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OSeo-0001I7-CN for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:38:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OSe5-0000FV-U9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OSdl-0008JL-6Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:37:05 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OSda-0007tv-VH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OSbD-0000pm-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 03:34:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OSbB-0000pc-00 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 03:34:25 +0200 Original-Lines: 36 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kePOrHQJ1jkLznll9N9ir8UMIG4= X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:10744 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:10744 Peter Lee writes: >>>>> Harry Putnam writes: > Harry> Sounds like you need to bone up on vi before you go much > Harry> further with your employment quests. An employer expecting > Harry> you to know vi isn't asking a terrible lot after all. > > Why should the employer care what tool you use to get a particular job > done with? I mean unless your job is to create vi add-ons (or > something actually targetting vi) what difference does it make how the > text is generated? If I ever found myself faced with such a > brain-dead employer I'd have to move along. Not unreasonable for an employer to expect competency with available tools. I spent my life in heavy construction. I never had the oportuninty to say ' I don't know how to use Miller welding machines. I only use lincolns. Could you get a lincoln for me even though you already have millers?' I wouldn't have lasted long.. > Harry> Or expecting an employee to know about basic OS stuff like > Harry> setting the erase character in shell.. really isn't asking > Harry> a terrible lot either. > Not sure how you draw a correlation between expecting a developer to > know the basics of the OS he's developing on/for and dictating which > editor he will use. The former is both obvious and common sense while > the latter is just silly. You are giving the OP bad advice here. Its only basic self protection to know how to use the tools you work with. Knowing how to set the erase behavior in your shell or other minor adjustments. I don't know what bee got up your bonnet but what your saying is really a bit ridiculous.