From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Timothy Hobbs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Soliciting Recommendations for a Mail Client Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:37:09 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20080404021252.GB67048@slim.pmade.com> <87tzigzvam.fsf@t22.Belkin> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207377468 10125 80.91.229.12 (5 Apr 2008 06:37:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 06:37:48 +0000 (UTC) To: EMACS list Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 05 08:38:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ji22b-00075Y-1R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:38:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji21y-0008H3-2i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji21e-0008Gy-6Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji21b-0008Gl-OQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:37:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ji21b-0008Gi-Jn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.178]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ji21b-0006LF-99 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so344030wah.10 for ; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject:references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=XQFaxygiixVbzukJZl4HWyy0VsUduiTp8PTzTug+9t4=; b=LcFKwCExFRcnFA8xK+J+atEU7WYE/4e5fDKUJp9JVHH+hoXr6VfLYFnGsGds56i8oPoMRXaMNyHw4kedTbvd/VN+DupThK2pwJb1YhfqrbDdJtVWD7Kd2KwHnTx8pCqT1F3+cMaeSWYhz7/57/an3ycrAJEf8gJ3WyQW7ccv4b8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:subject:references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=BFRCRnR/YRCRFcasRZi8STwAw93XzoY5fu9u/A+G2/JV6iL46iwFkXrCSVrvlQsWYiz9/ZiAhEXZSsTSUOTrJGQ0sTt90ZYhslC+5cUog2rDtDMcKSFZRlND9/5RcKv9vVWe8LkbKal/sIgVvnYied07fECiNvdS4D7MQRg58DM= Original-Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr3387267wae.13.1207377434052; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ( [71.112.111.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m29sm9263607poh.10.2008.04.04.23.37.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:37:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tzigzvam.fsf@t22.Belkin> (Bill O'Connor's message of "Sat\, 05 Apr 2008 02\:10\:25 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:53080 Archived-At: I use gnus as well, in congruence with BBDB and planner-mode. It works well, though there are a lot of things I don't understand. It is not an emacs like program in that instead of having a quick clean api and front end, it has a huge, power full, complex tangle, with it's own specialized extension mechanisms. This I typically think is a bad thing. But no one has gotten around to really replacing it. I have managed to change the key bindings and mess up the window lay out to the point where it was deemed acceptable by me, so therefore it can't be too bad, right? One thing, it is the one part of emacs that really requires you to restart after making significant config changes. You can save yourself lots of time by reading the docs really well before setting up anything, because it's kind of a monster about creating lots and lots of dot files, and not liking to be *re* configured. Good luck Timothy Hobbs