From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jochen_K=FCpper?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: customize versus own expressions in .emacs Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:39:50 +0200 Organization: Fritz-Haber-Institut der MPG Message-ID: References: <87d5tklwr5.fsf@mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111959915 26878 80.91.229.2 (27 Mar 2005 21:45:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sun Mar 27 23:45:05 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DFfZ6-00037A-R7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:45:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DFfp4-0001To-MH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DFfoL-0001MJ-H7 for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:00:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DFfo8-0001Fg-9l for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:00:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DFfo5-000190-AB for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:00:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.14.130.154] (helo=duras.rz-berlin.mpg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DFfUB-0006bC-VF for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:39:56 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by duras.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAAEED1E8 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:39:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from duras.rz-berlin.mpg.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (duras [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25883-05 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:39:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from doze.jochen-kuepper.de.fhi-berlin.mpg.de (pool058.RZ-Berlin.MPG.DE [141.14.151.58]) by duras.rz-berlin.mpg.de (Postfix) with SMTP id B4C3BED1B8 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:39:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org In-Reply-To: <87d5tklwr5.fsf-by2PdLBuqAc@public.gmane.org> (Sebastian Luque's message of "Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:22:22 -0600") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEUcGRSqioSCPi7Cwbxu Vk5MQjycXkxMKiQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFG2qEAAAB5klEQVR42nXUwY7aMBAA UK8E4tqpI/fMKIWzFdBewcwm10WA9tpksz6zFci/37GdxF7a+mLwi2fGQ4yo/jPE9AkaIcRM/gU7 EcfTA/zgtWsuEfRmWPVjlsOryMYpAYgvYz9B8RXmhxHEw/gcQD+sz/cDbMLXhbu7a6j6Nob6FuDW U21+uje8nuUA/rnXxR4ArCWi5jhWJSJUmoWop7HckPt+Bz6PsrYmexgg5HY3CDvKuq/lAM9hB4VQ HfZEMt8xj2BLSrD1cDlThNJMoXSEWnroDJr3HM5nDtUbRIPuluDqLlx8YdYuh0o87S6+DWANUrn+ Pf0eO7vh1Awf98XKXi/jAatnCwU/Bebl5pZqjRNs2xa4IcoqdEuN5QSbFn3pYLkqqbtyLLfSEbQi XEn4jsvpZRiAO7UCUCYBhE7zhAgSclAyToiSO5xgA+8RONYqD6X3YYdWnakJU1WVPsaI0LXU5VBF kMr6aJTBPk4KfP5SJoAYEXpE5/4FVnVrpHQ/tny/pAduZl/bBDsGLbkqD7ZN0PgbCfwucPL49gzd pZmPw22SoPoc+iZkAL+J6nRrdQEHf+4Qqm4TFJJ8idxYrumY/QEAFHQI65xhcZqgOEHhTAhk6WUu jgPohnc4wgD21+zN+c79AZmNym6Cgz4IAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Archive: encrypt X-Attribution: Jochen OpenPGP: id=CC1B0B4D; url=http://jochen-kuepper.de/computer/keys.asc X-Request-PGP: http://jochen-kuepper.de/computer/keys.asc X-URL: http://jochen-kuepper.de Original-Lines: 43 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (PP&B) at duras X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25221 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25221 Sebastian Luque writes: > Since I began using Emacs a little over a year now, I've been mixing my > own entries with those made by the Customize interface in my ~/.emacs. As > I learned more and started using more libraries, it has become more > difficult to maintain this file due to the mixing of the two styles. [...] > Variation in preferences was very large. Is there some general > consensus regarding this today, given that Customize seems to have > improved since 1999? I find this also a quite interesting question. What I myself is that I barely use customize, but the few times I do I leave the settings in .emacs in the beginning. I do have a separate jk-emacs.el (and a few more files, i.e. for gnus and bbdb) where I put my own customizations. Once I get to the point that I want to change some of these "customization" settings further, I move everything from .emacs to jk-emacs.el and change it by hand there. .emacs looks like the following (and .gnus looks very similar): ,---- | ;; | ;; load jk-emacs customization | ;; | (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/konfigurationsdateien/lisp/i= nit/")) | (load-library "jk-emacs") |=20 |=20 | ;; | ;; robot-customization | ;; | (custom-set-variables [...] `---- Greetings, Jochen --=20 Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Libert=E9, =C9galit=E9, Fraternit=E9 GnuPG key: CC1B0B4D (Part 3 you find in my messages before fall 2003.)