From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaj Schumacher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: File name completion on Mac OS X with German umlauts Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205336719 27772 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2008 15:45:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Markus Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 12 16:45:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZT98-0007Dc-Na for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:45:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZT8K-00005y-Im for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZT85-00004x-LJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZT7z-0008VQ-Uq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZT7z-0008VN-Lr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZT7y-0001TW-GP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9428D6A6164; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [77.135.2.252] (helo=wednesday) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1JZT7g-0001Fi-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Markus's message of "Sun\, 09 Mar 2008 22\:47\:56 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.92 (darwin) X-Sender: n_schumacher@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18+iW3pfREDuY61Uqlq9PAw7mauTP6UZjVDPqBF D0rn3Ja3WCDbN4DlfI41WMDAYYrbBslWEJ3CQ75fT3grIFR5cm znonyPGyOvXFG+UDSSDw== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52297 Archived-At: Markus wrote: > But I guess this is maybe not only an Emacs bug, but also one in Mac > OS X. In the recent years, Linux finally succeeded in dealing with > umlauts well. But I quit Linux three years ago for the Mac ... I > didn't expect such annoying things to reappear :-( Actually ... As I said OSX uses a different method for representing umlauts. But at least it uses that representation exclusively in its FS. GNU/Linux supports BOTH representations. For instance, if you rsync "r=C3=BCckerstattung" from a Linux machine to a Mac machine and back, you will end up with 2 files named "r=C3=BCckerstattung". Each will have a different representation to the machine but will look indistinguishable to the user. Completing will work nicely on one, but have the very same problems on the other... I don't think either OS is to blame. It's an app (or maybe string library) problem. Nobody expects the same character to have two legal representations. (Did someone say Unicode was the /end/ to all encoding woes?) regards, Nikolaj Schumacher