From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim McNamara Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Printing under OS X Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:31:58 -0600 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <4yk73mbr8p.fsf@skjellgran.ii.uib.no> <87r7xt4zoo.fsf@uhoreg.ca> <87y8s1qdgu.fsf@shroud.disorg> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074728854 2534 80.91.224.253 (21 Jan 2004 23:47:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 22 00:47:26 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AjS4D-0005pp-01 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:47:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AjS2j-0002rb-Or for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:45:53 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!gemini.bitstream.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MJyfAx8rsDs+X9RRLTr6QpjguRs= Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: b67eafe8.news.bitstream.net Original-X-Trace: 1074727918 gemini.bitstream.net 435 216.243.177.155 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@bitstream.net Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:120319 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:16263 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:16263 Garglemonster writes: >>>>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:59:03 -0600, Tim McNamara said: > > > >> AucTeX is not a (La)TeX distribution. It is only an emacs > >> package for making dealing with (La)TeX files easier. In > >> order to do anything useful with LaTeX files, you'll need to > >> install a LaTeX distribution. > > Tim> Yes, thank, I was able to figure out the essentials. > Tim> Mainly I want to be able to send articles for publication > Tim> formatted in LaTeX, so- as it turns out from my research- I > Tim> would be perfectly satisfied with a previewer rather than > Tim> being able to print hard copies. > > but even if you do that, latex/tex have to chew on the files first. > whether you have them spit the files out in the direction of the > screen or the printer, you still need tex/latex. the upshot is that > you pretty much need a full tex installation even to preview files. > you could run latex on someone else's machine that you access > remotely, but that's hardly worth the trouble. if worse comes to > worse, just get the source for tetex and compile it yourself. > texlive is another option. Ah, well, rapidly becoming more trouble than its worth! With limited hard drive space, the excessive mechanics of a full install of all the various libraries and binaries, sorting out all the dependencies, etc., is too much of a PITA. It's at times like these that the rather Byzantine architecture of the Unix filesystem becomes annoying. Pity, really, as it looks to me like LaTeX ought to be renderable along the same lines as HTML and not require 100+ megabytes of stuff to do even the simplest task. > and besides, you will want to print out your stuff for editing. A fountain pen is so much simpler.