From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?S=E9bastien?= Kirche Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Newbie: Copy&paste text from native application into emacs? Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:44:22 +0200 Organization: Aucune. Message-ID: References: <1123743413.150599.270340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87psskkf86.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> Reply-To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?S=E9bastien?= Kirche NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1123754376 29058 80.91.229.2 (11 Aug 2005 09:59:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 11 11:59:27 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E39q3-0006NS-1Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:59:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E39tC-0000OR-Da for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:02:18 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!freenix!news.cuq.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.25.216.129 Original-X-Trace: yeuse.cuq.org 1123753519 85121 195.25.216.129 (11 Aug 2005 09:45:19 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@cuq.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:45:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: ; T}O6aj2o*d:|9po%NCuYvExN3]<#cHr0"FaWCh[}WVn6&@L)YWO'&6AO5Ex:MX=H; .^e}o Td*OaFQEBc_xu%+ChwRl!KK`I'["$^aO1gIN{4OyBdO@1HHD5YO#[kiVCk|/-|mmYnU8yTp+eOv."d 1.G3; ro0Q/`,UY+vY/#5b/{OYxE+X\)tc~p~1vbmZ!o4sciW+e8MW|Pz|nl`l*}]8[#1zQO"]d2*{d wrTKu]5t*Gy_pm3e8o=:(c_ju'zlQ<[oJ|\XjgQQmWZC7S]-Fmp\eBHnBO']/te~/; \@l" D#:h)8Q User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Bo+mrhMiv9vV4NdX63wWuu7FxDc= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:133130 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:28653 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:28653 At 11:08 on Aug 11 2005, Pascal Bourguignon said : > All wrong! (Sorry). > > Well, ctrl-y is correct, but it's written C-y in emacs-speak. > > cmd-w is Command-w = Apple-w = MS-Windows-w. Nothing to do with C-w > > Opt-w is Alt-w and has nothing to do with (Meta-w) M-w which can also > be typed as ESC w. It's true that on keyboards lacking a Meta key, Alt > is often mapped to Meta, but this is not necessarily the case. > > > If you are very new to Emacs, i suggest you to type "Ctrl-h" then > > "t" : > > Write it: C-h t Sorry Pascal, but i don't agree. I am afraid that the terminology you use would be completely obscure and unfamiliar to a Mac user who said himself that he is very new to Emacs. With Mac, you talk about the Ctrl key, Option key and Command (or "Apple") key. You are right about the correct names for the keys and the usual way emacs users describe the combos C- S- and M-, But i guess that the OP could have asked then what means M- or Meta. Once he will read the tutorial, I suppose it will be ok to use the common terms. -- Sébastien Kirche