From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [Rmail] Fighting spam Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 19:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8736y947rw.fsf@maillard.im> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527813936 23745 195.159.176.226 (1 Jun 2018 00:45:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:45:36 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (darwin) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xavier Maillard Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 01 02:45:32 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fOYC9-0005zq-Ut for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 02:45:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46813 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOYEG-0006JA-Q6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOYDn-0006Ip-Jd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOYDj-0004Au-Lr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:50437) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fOYDj-0004Ac-Gp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6FB21C1B; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 31 May 2018 20:47:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=abwN4dNGMygEOl4i2Jt7pGntPSuFe UMWaZUUSHmqAG0=; b=PSy/gCbNJ/ILs7sUxD7fnsy3qbaGj+nwZxr1Djsxnxk/4 6yUaYjKzpcqI8DrtOIblfYFdQu4qqDIc2HuJ6/bgOP+xqGUBJBxWwVOJAZlZRxUi w6vzs4/frXzj0gtYteMZ70M7FDjzxv7Xm4Y2jwHTtZ0Jrq9gIousg6lruhniB/o3 UKaC56Xehz2SgCmh/APkBGtrMT9F15AOrG/xRXkhAywZkpdrBfh9xeAs4Za0/UcT 3swyKS1bL2NkhBP9Pp9EwMhBNpuv/BEy8eKDjqwuNXBYOYFAy936w5PvhMdu7Myu 0Cq/gwu/3KxpEcRlWDJiy0LRAVyAtlZ+IR4+3YAKA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=abwN4d NGMygEOl4i2Jt7pGntPSuFeUMWaZUUSHmqAG0=; b=ArIUeYmD7pxHPV5bxdMLJv At9EHIXLfjRfSzUF2bEiHKgZN0+Y9nk4YI2P1t5pB9UiLO5oel/MbMuIAhcPoh5A G9IBOQ3J2fSgfrb9fOcbrLdPWEysTtOatxHeybMHJbDUqfaF4qKUmr9nl5aGao5O +x74GQbFR6s20gN/p/8DKjqkuwgP28yGq9j5/uYvQqWxauyEO69yUvXbQPqrdMbC MTtRBVKqU3b2r9ybTd8GAiiTL9fFdmhMoO6dqgPJvxflxDlhAfluyzgXqutE2Zhe l7C0057vIGkk1/0ABE5wJ9YNnm91N9rnaBFY3N9gQ2ejpXov1nDsbuWNq86l3OIA == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from brown.local (96-84-85-81-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.84.85.81]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 468841026C; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:47:06 -0400 (EDT) User-Mail-Address: brown@fastmail.com Mail-reply-to: Eric Brown Mail-followup-to: Eric Brown In-Reply-To: <8736y947rw.fsf@maillard.im> (Xavier Maillard's message of "Wed, 30 May 2018 15:01:23 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116934 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > Hello, > > with latest Rmail development, what is the simplest method to protect > myself agaisnt spam ? THere are a few messages that are auto-magicallly > labeled with a =C2=AB spam =C2=BB keyword but I can't find why it happens= :) > > I need a way ton instruct this protector with other material to get him > even better. > > Thank you for your help Hi Xavier, I see that you've already found: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/RmailSpamprobe But the other possibility is: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/RmailSpamFilter which might be tailored to catch the specific spam keyword that appears in your headers. I'm not aware of any integrated Rmail/spamfilter solution that makes it act like those found in traditional GUIs, e.g. marking spam messages in Rmail and then submitting them to an ever-improving spam filter. (Of course there are things like spamassassin, but it doesn't seem integrated.) In my own solution, I simply use the spam filter of my provider's web interface (fastmail) and also use Gnus for filtering. Clearly you are interested in Rmail solution and perhaps you're locked to your provider. Just trying to explain one of the reasons that I don't use Rmail and do use something else, though Rmail is a fine program.) Best regards, Eric