From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaj Schumacher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:29:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <15b2444a-fece-4781-b57b-5e738ed1d202@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <26f9d70d-4131-42f1-a368-42aa0d28a940@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222101312 7542 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2008 16:35:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Lee Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 22 18:36:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KhoNw-0000tm-I5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:35:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59410 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhoMu-0007A0-RA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KhoHr-0005Rk-51 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:29:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KhoHq-0005RO-1t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:29:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54065 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhoHp-0005RL-Qi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:29:21 -0400 Original-Received: from dd18200.kasserver.com ([85.13.138.168]:58361) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KhoHp-0007gD-Ah for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:29:21 -0400 Original-Received: from thursday (BAH2465.bah.pppool.de [77.135.36.101]) by dd18200.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D7B18029AAB; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:29:22 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <26f9d70d-4131-42f1-a368-42aa0d28a940@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com> (Xah Lee's message of "Mon\, 22 Sep 2008 06\:07\:34 -0700 \(PDT\)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2.50 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57905 Archived-At: Xah Lee wrote: > many apps, including most browsers and text editor, can start without > a window present. (on the Mac) > > In fact, i think that's most apps behave on the Mac these days. (as > opposed to must having a window present. (on Windows, this is somewhat > irrelavent since each app are often in its own window with menu bar)) > > In AquaMacs for example, you can close all buffers, windows, frames, > without quiting the app. Correct. That's how apps are supposed to behave on Macs according to the human interface guidelines. It's more document than app based. However this mechanism can't simply be adapted for other operating systems. On Windows and most X systems, closing the last window is expected to terminate the application and there's no way to access a window-less application (other than notification area hacks). So this is not a viable solution. regards, Nikolaj Schumacher