From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaj Schumacher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to keep character encoding in text file... Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:13:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87y6vjxds9.fsf@galatea.local> <65C9C57A-5BBD-45F5-B5DE-9E1A90B5BF36@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236334436 27150 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2009 10:13:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 06 11:15:13 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LfX59-0003wg-Fy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:15:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54031 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LfX3n-0001Cv-79 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:13:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LfX3K-0001Cm-TY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:13:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LfX3J-0001CZ-SK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:13:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33948 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LfX3J-0001CT-Kj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from dd18200.kasserver.com ([85.13.138.168]:52740) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LfX3J-0006V8-B9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from thursday (unknown [78.52.31.26]) by dd18200.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6335B1845F412; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:13:13 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <65C9C57A-5BBD-45F5-B5DE-9E1A90B5BF36@Web.DE> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:44:59 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62667 Archived-At: Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 06.03.2009 um 09:21 schrieb Pascal J. Bourguignon: > >> Marko Myllymaki writes: >>> Therefore if I enter "baz" in latin1 buffer, everything is okay, but >>> "foobar =C3=A5=C3=A4=C3=B6" has some UTF-8 and it then forces buffer en= coding to >>> UTF-8... >> >> Perhaps because your keyboard doesn't send compound characters, but >> unicode combination sequences? iso-8859-1 contains acute and grave >> accents, but no umlaut. >> > > You're wrong: > > =C3=84 =3D 304 =3D 196 =3D C4 =3D U+00C4 =3D C3 84 : LATIN CAPITAL LET= TER A WITH He meant there is no umlaut combining character, such as 0x0308 in unicode. iso-8859-1 contains ` and =C2=B4 as individual chars. But I don't think those are combining characters, anyway. If the keyboard has "dead keys", that's an OS preference and not represented in the character s= et. regards, Nikolaj Schumacher