From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Damien Collard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: what has the face `message-separator' *really* done for us? Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:22:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86a7huom0w.fsf@zoho.eu> <86sgvmmg84.fsf@zoho.eu> <86imwhli91.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="53409"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (darwin) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 17 15:34:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Wrc-000DhN-Cb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:34:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Wrb-0008GP-BY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 10:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Wr8-00084V-KX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 10:33:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Wgf-00027N-QH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 10:22:54 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpoutz22.laposte.net ([194.117.213.97]:54243 helo=smtp.laposte.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h5Wgf-00025N-5l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 10:22:53 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.laposte.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lpn-prd-vrout010 (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94774AF0A5 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:22:50 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=laposte.net; s=mail0; t=1552832570; bh=KIoqjxlcXgGhcpShhC9iRupvoONYZAgHgi2wtzTPZWU=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hSZaxJN6Y+1z1x9AuyTCrd6quS6KEi+qCqc3WoUZpyj++0zu7TKcT1I5RMhFjekoP /GVKJ3c8BJVQasQbo18UrX8jbKDfbHsi/JYYsiWOP/kyit21MaXdlbjh6WoRTcMDhk ife4lPUWnjrNIGc3ot0WrAVd/dzHgLpO5ZSSWfbhmBuKIbUQaSkZqfI/mDT0uPG5YX gZv7L7xbehIAsLabamVhY1/pxkBxMFSaWmoRT+N9lIFtjsOA2jemugqhEfntXqk/0z e1zZoHCZXDPms/7kHgmBRMpB0VXm05UCcGGEaiWFEN9Lcce9UibqeLdXZV0sYrz9J2 kcBgJawA6akJA== Original-Received: from smtp.laposte.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lpn-prd-vrout010 (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9AD4AF0F4 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:22:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lpn-prd-vrin002 (lpn-prd-vrin002.laposte [10.128.63.3]) by lpn-prd-vrout010 (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62354AF0A5 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:22:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lpn-prd-vrin002 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lpn-prd-vrin002 (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72E05E82F5 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:22:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from FataMorgana (tou31-2-82-243-113-37.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.113.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lpn-prd-vrin002 (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 911375E8315 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:22:50 +0100 (CET) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEXamX/28r34+frw9ONc Nxl4bnZiOH0iAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAi1JREFUOI1llMF2ozAMRaXB7K247BM4 3QNq9mQq780E/v9X5slJm7TJghN0LfnpWYb6x29snl7o8XfY8vwKtO/fzf69gJknDWafv8HA FFvLH39/g9PKMu2Xj5dSIyeRyOEFRJ1EJNjhFxhYVSKFrHPV9w2OY0xcJC7Hg477/AAkysQS 8zm1XffnGwzXwzCScLQ27hy/wJHG63xEFxy3hZoH2MzWGXbYKsL8AINh7fyezS4QxsxyB6PZ wvPbVoG0VIRv4N2EWBEHQJyIu/kGch9ZzEGK2AbW1Fp0NArMDq6ySQXX780bddCcswiBlLnK DQ6wR9ZtgWBP2YkS9ac9X/TNjCfLsN6LuRRYMuxX1ZiUN9utgoh9K0iqOo3LluMuT0AJcUlu TdfGSgz99EMsWI9Vhla7J3BiQSlvEaI6upfyjF2wd65m4RAddA6GSJImF+iKqikxLAAjXhMG pG3NJ4jjitGrGdSKTt2CKhghWtGdp7tcAJ1Q4joJtQtAoeCdD6uLwow0Ny+gDgAZo0gFpCK7 LSFUALnSfVbAACV48AYGohWNr5HxLK7nC6wYdYQiuhlpuQM0gsn1rlqMaTpzCXfQkl8ODJMf XQpC94x9cSAjrwXaukt1CcDKAeCkI5XMGrcGs+ggLHOd9pPEtmSy1T0BMMRv16CRMzysxm6e MX9dnLl/g7V6P+18ePoAbFmm5GcUKDf9D8Ca6s0N1x8fgD0nrVc6hsMzOJbiID2B/xMvm7VL qL0FAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <86imwhli91.fsf@zoho.eu> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Sun, 17 Mar 2019 14:53:30 +0100") X-VR-FullState: 0 X-VR-Score: 0 X-VR-Cause-1: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedutddrheelgdeiiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhf X-VR-Cause-2: ihhlvgemucfntefrqffuvffgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucehtddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufhfffgj X-VR-Cause-3: kfgfgggtsehttdertddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghmihgvnhcuveholhhlrghrugcuoegurghmihgv X-VR-Cause-4: nhdrtgholhhlrghrugeslhgrphhoshhtvgdrnhgvtheqnecukfhppeekvddrvdegfedruddufedrfeej X-VR-Cause-5: necurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhinhgvthepkedvrddvgeefrdduudefrdefjedp X-VR-Cause-6: hhgvlhhopefhrghtrgfoohhrghgrnhgrpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepuggrmhhivghnrdgtohhllhgrrhgu X-VR-Cause-7: sehlrghpohhsthgvrdhnvghtpdhrtghpthhtohephhgvlhhpqdhgnhhuqdgvmhgrtghssehgnhhurdho X-VR-Cause-8: rhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-VR-AvState: No X-VR-State: 0 X-VR-State: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 194.117.213.97 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119647 Archived-At: On Dim, mar 17 2019, Emanuel Berg wrote: > I don't have `message-header-separator'. > But I do have `mail-header-separator' which > seems similar in purpose and effect Ah, I got confused; `message-header-separator` is a leftover from an experiment of mine... Indeed, as you say the variable is `mail-header-separator`. > > > Its value is "---" > Original value was > "--text follows this line--" > > > Maybe this is why why the face > `message-separator' won't affect it? > > But if so, then again what *does* it affect? Well, it seems to only be of effect when `mail-header-separator` has its default value "--text follows this line--". I checked, and - when it's the default separator, I can confirm that changing the face `message-separator` does change the separator's color. - when I changed `mail-header-separator` to "---" (or anything different from the default), the face `message-separator` doesn't apply to it anymore! So it's a bug. > Versions: > > Gnus v5.13 > > GNU Emacs 24.4.1 > (arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf, GTK+ Version > 3.14.5) of 2017-09-13 on mb-lxc-01, > modified by Debian Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.2.0, Carbon Version 158 AppKit 1671.2) [emacs-mac by Mitsuharu Yamamoto, installed via homebrew] -- Damien Collard