From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Filipp Gunbin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Question mail package Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:36:45 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87tv7z5l10.fsf@bobnewell.net> <87y2xai89m.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="154397"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (darwin) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: YUE Daian Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 25 15:39:49 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzoi-000e3S-8T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:39:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60064 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzof-0001kU-UW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:39:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzlv-0006KN-81 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:36:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzlt-0004Dg-H4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:39471) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzlt-0004Bx-1W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:36:53 -0400 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE089221FC; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:36:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:36:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=fm1; bh=7Gnfl6uYNzyk3HPZKY32ML3n8x IfOgrisgx68gNqcwo=; b=TQlCM8bH2CtJ++oTSqyhaTECk36Ut8PhgpA4B5/Hwn Vcf1oE49+azXwSHoMr94ooozUYJopnlvySCQoR5Y+0G5zxL+X+yLspnuH2umPzIO ZOJfEQe4T1tfnma5fBOt50KczfoqvEtXvvYcYIMTzXmJP6lUrQAJo7MK5ulbYljA tDAYQHWsYSMxMKX7VMxoD5cd3o0lbOmAabrwMscuQ1yCeEKBmzL6kyC9XjOADKA5 ablUr7Nemj9CRwTrNS2B2I0UsH9SBv97XMYKv+3hFG+WRijVvBZaR2k6HboHMtmc xVfiI971n3TVpAje55JvCRGwAPjrRsihraD2jP0rWNqA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=7Gnfl6 uYNzyk3HPZKY32ML3n8xIfOgrisgx68gNqcwo=; b=v5giQxEZgmWX0/eoUu5I6V IGCKPuV9yeT/Uo0XXpCdmEPzAIv6mvb+hl8ybPuvKqRfBP9QHJAIlUAq7qaYoLGy /L1yv29gkxwFMnrTy3sNcfuNsbqtQChf8XuT3yVGjZHgm5/hHQoXf1mvw6uziYi3 lbYd67guHh+Z49sgiYSA122DLI2ox7uEqTjUX3t+UZ2rb9YjvbAdSIB2lldfjrlf hWw4Tl19o84SiHk1HUNN092aKbhlNAlFfc8wpoAgAX0f9mjKryyB+3zpAIIE+GUe cWhys17uKKivWtCWf5zMTAdc2ocPlRe6vO+b4H9lCmynweMzZTsjiTymUuaa3asg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrleefgdeijecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufgjfhgffffkgggtsehttdertd dtredtnecuhfhrohhmpefhihhlihhpphcuifhunhgsihhnuceofhhguhhnsghinhesfhgr shhtmhgrihhlrdhfmheqnecukfhppedukeehrdefvddrieekrddufeehnecurfgrrhgrmh epmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehfghhunhgsihhnsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrfhhmnecuvehluhhs thgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: from fgunbin.local (unknown [185.32.68.135]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C8B4280060; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:36:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87y2xai89m.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (YUE Daian's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2019 21:27:01 +0800") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.26 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121724 Archived-At: On 24/10/2019 21:27 +0800, YUE Daian wrote: > As for Gnus, I do not think 30 lines will give you a satisfying > experience compared with other alternatives. I tried. Maybe it was just > me. > > But it has so many concepts related to good old new groups, instead of > mails. I do not think it is a good idea to recommend it to beginners. Maybe Gnus manual should have a section on common setups. I have a simple setup with 2 accounts in which I fetch all mail locally, and don't use search (but rather try to keep mailbox - both remote and local - clean). To get that, I'm tweaking a handful of variables - namely message-alternative-emails, gnus-posting-styles, gnus-select-method, gnus-secondary-select-methods, mail-sources, message-dont-reply-to-names, nnmail-split-methods. It's not complex, but I had to extract information piece by piece from different parts of the manual. And sending via different smtp servers is non-obvious, with custom header "X-Message-SMTP-Method". Filipp