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From: Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:23:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ek3ms1h0.fsf@Rothar.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.16.1136497693.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

"Luis O. Silva" <l.o.silva@mail.ru> writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:59:49 -0600, Tim McNamara writes:
>
>    TM> I use a Mac.  I'm not apologizing for it nor am I going
>    TM> to let someone make me feel like I'm doing something
>    TM> wrong.
>
> I invite you to apologize and repent of your sin. This is the
> place for doing it, son. :)

Hee hee.  Not gonna happen.

>    TM> I've yet to find a GNU/Linux or BSD system that
>    TM> is as good to use as OS X.
>
> It's not a matter of how well something works. The only way to
> go is that of freedom.

How well software works is a central issue in getting people to use
it.  If the Free Software movement is content to have a limited market
and minimal adoption, well that can't be helped.

My computer is a tool.  I need it to just work, I need it to be
reliable, and I need it to be easily useable.  In short, I don't have
time to edit .conf files.

>    TM> I've financially supported GNU, since I do not have the
>    TM> skills to offer support in terms of software
>    TM> development.
>
> That help is important, but what we need _much_ more is a
> change in your mind. I invite you to see beyond the obvious
> and immediate things. You don't need to be a software
> developer, you can do many things with your attitude.

I do see those things.  I just disagree with David K's hostility and
castigation of others.  What the free software movement doesn't seem
to grasp is that one of the things that counts is useability- both in
terms of the relationship between software and user, but also the
relationships between contributors and maintainers.  If you alienate
people, they just go away and stop using/contributing to your
software.  The implied "oh well, good riddance" is an attitude that is
the kiss of death.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-05 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-03 15:20 Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) David Reitter
2006-01-03 15:34 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 16:01   ` David Reitter
2006-01-03 16:58     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 19:58       ` David Reitter
     [not found]     ` <mailman.21285.1136317245.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 20:43       ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-03 21:16         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 21:35         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04 12:40           ` david.reitter
2006-01-04 13:28             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04 13:56               ` david.reitter
2006-01-04 15:09                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]         ` <mailman.21292.1136323111.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-04  0:10           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-04  0:31             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04  2:30               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-04  2:44                 ` Jay Belanger
2006-01-04 23:50                   ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05  0:39                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05  6:59                       ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05  7:23                         ` Jay Belanger
2006-01-05 13:15                           ` david.reitter
2006-01-05 13:56                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 11:08                               ` david.reitter
2006-01-06 12:40                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 14:16                                   ` David Reitter
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.120.1136557103.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 15:23                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 12:55                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 13:03                         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 14:10                           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05 14:26                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 21:52                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 22:19                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 23:21                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 23:49                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06  0:00                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 11:07                                 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2006-01-06 11:36                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 12:26                                     ` Gian Uberto Lauri
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.26.1136502144.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 11:23                                   ` david.reitter
2006-01-05 15:55                             ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-05 19:15                         ` Luis O. Silva
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.16.1136497693.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-05 23:23                           ` Tim McNamara [this message]
2006-01-06  0:17                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 21:01                               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06 21:22                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-07  4:41                                   ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-07  9:48                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-08  7:34                                       ` Joe Bush
2006-01-08 10:29                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-10  6:01                                           ` Joe Bush
2006-01-10  7:03                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-10 14:01                                               ` Sean Sieger
2006-01-06  2:58                             ` Luis O. Silva
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.42.1136512036.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 11:32                               ` david.reitter
2006-01-07 10:02                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-08  6:05                                   ` david.reitter
2006-01-06 21:09                               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06 21:42                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 21:55                                 ` Paul D. Smith
2006-01-06 22:02                                 ` Sean Sieger
2006-01-06 22:27                                 ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-01-07  1:43                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-07  2:03                                 ` Luis O. Silva
2006-01-07  0:56                                   ` Björn Lindström
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.209.1136595503.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  1:13                                     ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.183.1136585095.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  5:00                                   ` Tim McNamara
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.208.1136595203.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  5:01                                   ` Tim McNamara
     [not found] <mailman.21240.1136295385.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 14:15 ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-03 13:34 David Reitter

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