From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Rankin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: pirate bay, w3m, and the interface is just an interface (BEST post ever) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:43:17 +1000 Message-ID: References: <87k31v83eb.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418550232 24812 80.91.229.3 (14 Dec 2014 09:43:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Rusi Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 14 10:43:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y05iK-0007qm-C8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:43:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35464 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y05iK-00008k-07 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35429) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y05i4-00007Z-BG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y05hy-00031w-Di for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:43:28 -0500 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:44855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y05hy-00031j-9i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:43:22 -0500 Original-Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7E82046D; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:43:21 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:43:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tilk.co; h= x-sasl-enc:references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=jJ45o9o6SMM9 LJh9vq6dsarU9NU=; b=OmUEWmip70yZy1ZFYfNDtlqbWL2gdSvhOkL4vk4tP7Pz kaJvd3YybZefoIP0Dwd3sbFSLfMnIHIBOmNmjCDb+pX/Ml4JjbKsMbRVbZNojjsQ YjTtKtthQsD29FyA+n0OOLZ4WnSrdUgvCgNh6D9LCy3X9CAlU97u52R8/bPoiYc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=x-sasl-enc:references:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= smtpout; bh=jJ45o9o6SMM9LJh9vq6dsarU9NU=; b=SnhbHTOyqVXvfSrHJtTo rmdhKLnWRLdDoN0/b+bM0nBasA9JasepsXVELCF1pG619xcsVOFi2By6YHi2JfUb jJeTUGOa+RV76nb4xJUXijEdErRDrR4g6xog+amdlMOjkqZvps0qtH67Pf712sI3 1zLkXuJDHmxyjaxTZ5Ewcco= X-Sasl-enc: Z6uI7ItU/imZrE/V+hdcv7g3dTLJfgAiXD8YJhGC9ZTk 1418550200 Original-Received: from Paul-Rankins-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [202.0.190.43]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 101B3C00284; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:43:19 -0500 (EST) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 66.111.4.27 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101567 Archived-At: Rusi at 19:02 on 14 Dec 2014: > Consider > 1. The market capitalization of google/amazon etc > 2. How much that depends on the contributions of GNU/Linux etc > 3. Are the reimbursements reasonable (leave aside remotely fair)? > > JFTR I am not blaming the money-spinning corps. > Its just that we do not know yet how to make sense of 'ownership' > in a world where suddenly the links between work (aka sweat/blood) > and physical objects is no longer what it used to be. This is a very good point. Especially in the 21st century, it's insulting and just plain dumb for someone to tell another human being that their work has no value because it did not produce a scarce physical object.