* Displaying images
@ 2023-01-15 10:35 Felix E. Klee
2023-01-15 11:40 ` Jean Louis
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From: Felix E. Klee @ 2023-01-15 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
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I am using Emacs for file management. This involves viewing images
either in a buffer or using `image-dired`. All worked fine for years.
However recently:
* There a new image formats, such as AVIF, that don’t diplay out of
the box.
* I bought a Sony ZV-1 digital camera, and its ARW raw images don’t
display. I already have an idea how to solve that, not too
important now.
Yes, those AVIF images, why don’t they display automatically?
They are supported by the latest ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick, as
tested on my up-to-date Arch Linux system. As example, I use:
[hato.profile0.8bpc.yuv420.no-cdef.avif][1]
My Emacs config for testing is attached. A few minutes ago, I could
open the AVIF file, and it was displayed in `fundamental-mode`. I had
to manually do M-x `image-mode`. Then it displayed. Currently that
doesn’t work at all anymore. I am greeted by: “Unknown image type”
There are two more things that are confusing me:
* `auto-image-file-mode` by default is `nil`, but still JPEG images,
for example, do display. So I don’t feel like turning it on, and it
doesn’t seem to make a difference anyhow. Perhaps it’s a legacy
option.
* In the customization buffer, for “Image Converter” it says
“graphicsmagick” and “CHANGED outside Customize.” Note that I start
Emacs as `emacs -q -l init.el` with the attached init
file. Certainly `image-converter` is not set there.
I am using: GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.36, cairo version 1.17.6) of 2023-01-03
[1]: https://aomediacodec.github.io/av1-avif/testFiles/Link-U/hato.profile0.8bpc.yuv420.no-cdef.avif
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(setq user-init-file (or load-file-name (buffer-file-name)))
(setq user-emacs-directory (file-name-directory user-init-file))
(custom-set-variables
;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
'(image-file-name-extensions
'("png" "jpeg" "jpg" "gif" "tiff" "tif" "xbm" "xpm" "pbm" "pgm" "ppm" "pnm" "svg" "avif"))
'(image-use-external-converter t)
'(imagemagick-enabled-types t))
(custom-set-faces
;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
)
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2023-01-15 10:35 Displaying images Felix E. Klee
@ 2023-01-15 11:40 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-15 12:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-15 19:27 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-01-19 9:30 ` Felix E. Klee
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2023-01-15 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Felix E. Klee; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
* Felix E. Klee <felix.klee@inka.de> [2023-01-15 13:37]:
> I am using Emacs for file management. This involves viewing images
> either in a buffer or using `image-dired`. All worked fine for years.
> However recently:
>
> * There a new image formats, such as AVIF, that don’t diplay out of
> the box.
>
> * I bought a Sony ZV-1 digital camera, and its ARW raw images don’t
> display. I already have an idea how to solve that, not too
> important now.
>
> Yes, those AVIF images, why don’t they display automatically?
M-x report-emacs-bug
and propose the inclusion.
--
Jean
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* Re: Displaying images
2023-01-15 10:35 Displaying images Felix E. Klee
2023-01-15 11:40 ` Jean Louis
@ 2023-01-15 19:27 ` Daniel Fleischer
2023-01-15 19:48 ` Felix E. Klee
2023-01-19 9:30 ` Felix E. Klee
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Fleischer @ 2023-01-15 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Felix E. Klee; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Felix E. Klee [2023-01-15 Sun 11:35] wrote:
> * I bought a Sony ZV-1 digital camera, and its ARW raw images don’t
> display. I already have an idea how to solve that, not too
> important now.
A few words about raw images. These are not really images but the raw
sensor data; every pixel and the amount of light it captured. There is
no color information. The color comes from filters put on top of the
image sensor. The process of converting raw photons counts into RGB
pixels is called demosaicing and is very nuanced; you can apply color
corrections, remove dead pixels, do noise reduction and the "formulas"
are specific for every file format and every camera model and sometimes
the lens used. There are specific applications that process raw images,
including open source ones. Most of the open source software use either
dcraw (CLI tool) or libraw (library). A processing step is needed to
convert the raw image into a real image (png,jpg,bmp,tiff, etc). Maybe
you can use the CLI tool for fast conversion for preview purposes.
--
Daniel Fleischer
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* Re: Displaying images
2023-01-15 19:27 ` Daniel Fleischer
@ 2023-01-15 19:48 ` Felix E. Klee
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From: Felix E. Klee @ 2023-01-15 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Daniel Fleischer <danflscr@gmail.com> writes:
> A few words about raw images. These are not really images but the raw
> sensor data;
:) I also like to feed them in photogrammetry software, which prefers to
have as much unprocessed info as possible.
> The color comes from filters put on top of the image sensor.
Generally yes, not with Foveon. (regularly used a Sigma DP1x long ago)
> Maybe you can use the CLI tool for fast conversion for preview
> purposes.
All cameras that I’ve shot raw with embed a preview image into the raw
file. It can be extracted for example with:
dcraw -e <raw_file>
The question is how to make Emacs aware of this. Ideally, viewing raw
images also works with [picpocket][1], a nice Emacs image viewer that I
only discovered today.
Anyhow, very nice summary of raw images!
[1]: https://melpa.org/#/picpocket
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* Re: Displaying images
2023-01-15 10:35 Displaying images Felix E. Klee
2023-01-15 11:40 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-15 19:27 ` Daniel Fleischer
@ 2023-01-19 9:30 ` Felix E. Klee
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Felix E. Klee @ 2023-01-19 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
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Latest update: I got the rendering of AVIF files working with
GraphicsMagick:
* Made sure that GraphicsMagick properly reports its list of supported
file formats. By doing so I found what I believe to be a [bug in
Arch][1].
* Explicitly specified GraphicsMagick as converter, although according
to documentation it should be chosen automatically if not set:
'(image-converter 'graphicsmagick)
* As before, I specified `avif` as an extension of files to render in
`image-mode` upon loading:
'(image-file-name-extensions
'("png" "jpeg" "jpg" "gif" "tiff" "tif" "xbm" "xpm" "pbm"
"pgm" "ppm" "pnm" "svg" "avif"))
However, that does *not* work. AVIF files are opened in
`fundamental-mode`, and I have to do:
M-x image-mode
Now, I would like to try if setting `image-file-name-regexps` can solve
the issue. However, when I add a regular expression such as simply the
four characters “avif”, then customize reports an error message:
image-file-name-regexp: Wrong type argument: characterp, "avif"
*Why is that? How do I properly specify a regular expression here?*
See full configuration attached.
(About raw files: GraphicsMagick does support ARW files, albeit
rendering is slow. Via so called delegates it can be extended to
support additional file formats, and maybe I can tell it to use the
preview embedded in an ARW in order to speed things up.)
[1]: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/77182
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(setq user-init-file (or load-file-name (buffer-file-name)))
(setq user-emacs-directory (file-name-directory user-init-file))
(custom-set-variables
;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
'(image-converter 'graphicsmagick)
'(image-file-name-extensions
'("png" "jpeg" "jpg" "gif" "tiff" "tif" "xbm" "xpm" "pbm" "pgm" "ppm" "pnm" "svg" "avif"))
'(image-use-external-converter t)
'(imagemagick-enabled-types t))
(custom-set-faces
;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
)
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