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From: Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Subject: Re: Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs)
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:50:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m24q4j364i.fsf@Rothar.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87sls47lvd.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu

Jay Belanger <belanger@truman.edu> writes:

> Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> writes:
>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> ...
>> Jeez, dude.  Drink a little less coffee.  Take a deep breath.  Go
>> for a walk.  Un-knot your undies.  And stop insulting everybody in
>> sight.  Whatever.
>>
>> <snipped rest of intemperate rant>
>
> Hardly an intemperate rant; it was thoughtful explanation of why
> improvements to Emacs should be made with at least the possibility
> of helping all Emacs users.  Feel free to disagree, but don't
> pretend it's something it's not.

I don't disagree in principle.  Free software in the GNU/FSF sense is
vitally important IMHO.  The uncalled-for tetchiness is what bothers
me.  Perhaps David K did not mean to sound grumpy and rude, but he
certainly came across that way.

If proponents of free software ever expect to have their products in
the mainstream and not just the province of geeks, then they had
better learn the value of good customer service, and of good interface
design and human useability.  And we might as well treat each other
with civility rather than disdain as a good way to develop that
attitude.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-04 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-03 15:20 Icon designer wanted (Aquamacs Emacs) David Reitter
2006-01-03 15:34 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 16:01   ` David Reitter
2006-01-03 16:58     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-03 19:58       ` David Reitter
     [not found]     ` <mailman.21285.1136317245.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 20:43       ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-03 21:16         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 21:35         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04 12:40           ` david.reitter
2006-01-04 13:28             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04 13:56               ` david.reitter
2006-01-04 15:09                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]         ` <mailman.21292.1136323111.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-04  0:10           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-04  0:31             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-04  2:30               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-04  2:44                 ` Jay Belanger
2006-01-04 23:50                   ` Tim McNamara [this message]
2006-01-05  0:39                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05  6:59                       ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05  7:23                         ` Jay Belanger
2006-01-05 13:15                           ` david.reitter
2006-01-05 13:56                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 11:08                               ` david.reitter
2006-01-06 12:40                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 14:16                                   ` David Reitter
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.120.1136557103.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 15:23                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 12:55                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 13:03                         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 14:10                           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-05 14:26                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 21:52                               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 22:19                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-05 23:21                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-05 23:49                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06  0:00                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-06 11:07                                 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2006-01-06 11:36                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 12:26                                     ` Gian Uberto Lauri
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.26.1136502144.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 11:23                                   ` david.reitter
2006-01-05 15:55                             ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-05 19:15                         ` Luis O. Silva
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.16.1136497693.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-05 23:23                           ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06  0:17                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 21:01                               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06 21:22                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-07  4:41                                   ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-07  9:48                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-08  7:34                                       ` Joe Bush
2006-01-08 10:29                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-01-10  6:01                                           ` Joe Bush
2006-01-10  7:03                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-01-10 14:01                                               ` Sean Sieger
2006-01-06  2:58                             ` Luis O. Silva
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.42.1136512036.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-06 11:32                               ` david.reitter
2006-01-07 10:02                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-08  6:05                                   ` david.reitter
2006-01-06 21:09                               ` Tim McNamara
2006-01-06 21:42                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-06 21:55                                 ` Paul D. Smith
2006-01-06 22:02                                 ` Sean Sieger
2006-01-06 22:27                                 ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-01-07  1:43                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-07  2:03                                 ` Luis O. Silva
2006-01-07  0:56                                   ` Björn Lindström
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.209.1136595503.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  1:13                                     ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.183.1136585095.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  5:00                                   ` Tim McNamara
     [not found]                                 ` <mailman.208.1136595203.26925.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-07  5:01                                   ` Tim McNamara
     [not found] <mailman.21240.1136295385.20277.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-01-03 14:15 ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-03 13:34 David Reitter

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