From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaj Schumacher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: split screen horizontally into three equally spaced sections Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:04:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bpxslyal.fsf@mundaneum.com> <48EF0C30.4010101@gmail.com> <48EF7E69.1090109@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223665671 8647 80.91.229.12 (10 Oct 2008 19:07:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Vauban , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 10 21:08:50 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KoNK6-0000Gt-DV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:06:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57057 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KoNJ2-0004VU-FG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:05:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KoNI0-0004Br-Qa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:04:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KoNI0-0004BW-9w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:04:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34805 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KoNI0-0004BN-1s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:04:40 -0400 Original-Received: from dd18200.kasserver.com ([85.13.138.168]:47079) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KoNI0-0008O5-7F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:04:40 -0400 Original-Received: from thursday (BAH214a.bah.pppool.de [77.135.33.74]) by dd18200.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D7718074837; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:04:43 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <48EF7E69.1090109@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri\, 10 Oct 2008 18\:10\:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:58678 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" wrote: > when it comes to more complex things then I definitively prefer > bundling. Remember that complexity tends to grow exponentially with the > number of involved things. Exactly. If two things are tied-together, there are more things involved. If they are separate, complexity is actually reduced. We're talking about slightly different things, I think. When there are real dependencies, I don't mind packaging. It's a sane choice in absence of package management. But many packages have artificial dependencies that wouldn't have to exist. I don't know about your package, so I don't want to make any assumptions. But, for example, ECB can only reasonably used with the included (brain-dead) window management. There is no way to just use the (excellent) class browser. That's a serious restriction... It seems that winsize is optional, as well as separately usable. I don't mind that they're in the same zip file. I just think that bundling generally increases the risk that they needlessly get tangled together. I hope that doesn't happen. regards, Nikolaj Schumacher