From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Clementson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: doc-view.el blog posting Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:04:17 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87wsvnfoyp.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <874pil8f2m.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <87odgsjef5.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <87absbg53e.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <878x7ujfov.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <87odgptrwx.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <877indtf1o.fsf_-_@baldur.tsdh.de> <200709020100.l8210D9Y029190@localhost.localdomain> <87d4x18o2o.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <6473CB07-9ED7-454E-A793-F735ED2EA161@Web.DE> <2A6E274D-F68F-4A30-B0F3-662A8F205585@Web.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188860728 12762 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2007 23:05:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs list To: Peter Dyballa Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 04 01:05:27 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISKz0-000465-KL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:05:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISKyz-0007Pv-Bo for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISKy2-0006Qy-Sl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISKy1-0006P3-Ok for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISKy1-0006Oe-E5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISKy0-0002S6-SJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so1952529wah for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:04:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:cc:subject:references:from:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=ULlss1pLAL4Opon8QIZ8xOrDQZYI3xjJLDW0FP52CVaGd1IJay3Is1QN2cTuiXck2ul7aMFqxxenXThW6HZfbSaX0zU5YES/0V4P9qxxpCp/BobGs5f7KUUlneNHnNf4iWiYOp83Yw+/QHesOmi0Sx2JHg1Rt6fhuwcqlBsegLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:to:cc:subject:references:from:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=fPCUteaACbYxKd6dZoAhlO3SM6oBhQ3b6V4CWrEixMHPA9LV2mjwQ/4a5rTqehFI8Vw+b8EaUy1nr02k7VBSkF5VT7Jcw49jOcfFYQZGjC43YcT0bCeVRkem5y9aZ6V/geE9G5hyPtPCD83iRUsSd/YKlxDTlTcHAsGPtdrbEZ4= Original-Received: by 10.114.89.1 with SMTP id m1mr86497wab.1188860663728; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bc.local ( [24.87.84.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k9sm5102458wah.2007.09.03.16.04.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:04:22 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47170 Archived-At: Hi Peter, Peter Dyballa writes: > Am 03.09.2007 um 20:58 schrieb Bill Clementson: > >> Wouldn't libtheora be necessary for outputting OGG format videos? > > Yes, libtheora is needed to encode video material. Ogg is just a > container format for *some* streams of compressed data (audio, video, > text). > > > Perian does not offer any ready to use tools. It only has the APIs > and library functions. With QuickTime Pro or iMovie or such gadgets > it might work to save the recorded scene in an Ogg container with > Vorbis audio and Theora video contents. > > If Perian is missing things like Theora, the XiphQT plug-in has it: > http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/. > > > I am not doing anything with video or audio programmes (and my clone > is missing spare time, too), except listening to some free music > recorded at concerts or watching some funny video. Ok, thanks for the info. I've had "partial" success in creating an ogg video file from my QT movie. I did the following: 1. Downloaded XiphQT package from: http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html 2. Moved XiphQT.component to ~/Library/Components/ 3. Loaded my doc-view.mov movie into iMovie 4. In iMovie, selected File/Share... menu option 5. Selected "Expert Settings" from the drop down menu 6. Selected "Movie to Ogg" as the Export: option and pressed "Options..." 7. Under "Video Settings", I selected "Best" for Frames per Second and "Best" for Compressor Quality and "High" for Sharpness The movie was converted to OGG format (e.g. - an OGG container with the sound in the Vorbis codec and the video in the Theora code). However, although the resulting sound quality was ok, the video quality was very poor. It was so poor that, although I could make out what was happening in the movie, it is doubtful that anyone would want to watch it. So, I guess converting .MOV movies to OGG format isn't really a viable option. On Mac OS X, I can use VLC to view OGG videos; however, I haven't been able to find any screenrecording utility that will save to OGG. Does anyone have any recommendations? - Bill