From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason White Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 03:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367811100 21264 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2013 03:31:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 03:31:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 06 05:31:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZC9I-0002Ke-CK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 May 2013 05:31:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55655 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZC9H-0000QR-UI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 23:31:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZC96-0000QK-Ma for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 23:31:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZC95-0008Go-LJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 23:31:24 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:33533) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZC95-0008Gf-EG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 23:31:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZC92-0002B5-Rm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 May 2013 05:31:20 +0200 Original-Received: from jdc.jasonjgw.net ([59.167.198.218]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2013 05:31:20 +0200 Original-Received: from jason by jdc.jasonjgw.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2013 05:31:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jdc.jasonjgw.net X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: jason@jdc.jasonjgw.net (Jason White) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90523 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: >Are you suggesting you're willing to put in the work to remove terminal >support from Emacs? It'd be a lot of work. What would be the point? Exactly. And if anyone is seriously proposing to remove terminal support, could they also implement all of the necessary ATK interfaces to enable my braille display to be used with Emacs under X11 and GTK? It works wonderfully at the console and also over ssh connections, thanks to the terminal display code in Emacs, removal of which would be a major regression for my use cases. I should mention that I use Emacspeak for speech output and highly recommend it; Emacspeak can run equally well in a terminal or under X, but for braille access (using a refreshable braille device) Emacs really must be run in a terminal session.