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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Heuristics for: is a major-mode a "programming language" mode?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:08:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy6b3kq39.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 50407747-1f13-43c4-bb9a-ac53afdeca19@g6g2000pro.googlegroups.com

>> So there must be some code which decides "which type" is the given
>> major mode.  I would prefer the bulk of the decision to be made
>> programmatically, THEN let the user override if the auto-choice was
>> wrong.  Anyone with ideas how to do this?

BTW, it occurred to me that maybe checking indent-line-function is
a good way to figure out whether the current mode is a programming mode.

> there are 2 other thoughts similar to this... one is a desire to have
> a formatting command that works for any lang. e.g. you press a button,
> and the curren block, or region, or buffer, gets formatted, in any
> lang, to a user set preference. No longer the pains to align code or
> press tabs, per line. (there are tools for this in different lang...
> usually called something-lint.)

In theory we already have 2 commands to do that:
- indent-region (C-M-\): works well in practice, but limited to
  re-indenting; i.e. it won't add/remove newlines.
- fill-region: in practice doesn't work at all.  In some major modes
  fill-paragraph will do what you want (or a variant of what you want,
  depending on your particular needs), but fill-region lacks hooks right
  now, so even the most careful major-mode writer won't be able to make
  it do the right thing.  There's a lot of room for improvement here.
  
> ... also, it's a fantasy of mine for C-h f to work in any lang. If
> info file doc for the lang doesn't exist, just send user to web
> browser of the lang's doc on that func.

The "info doc" part already exists: it's bound to C-h S.
It should be easy to make it able to use browse-url instead of Info.


        Stefan


  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-15 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-15  9:28 Heuristics for: is a major-mode a "programming language" mode? Ilya Zakharevich
2010-09-15 13:12 ` Tim X
2010-09-15 14:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-15 14:43 ` Xah Lee
2010-09-15 15:08   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-09-15 15:32     ` Xah Lee
2010-09-15 23:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-16 23:43     ` Ilya Zakharevich
2010-09-17  9:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-16 23:40   ` Ilya Zakharevich

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