From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Was it once possible to expand capped print output by using ellipsis as button? Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:00:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r3rl2aht.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429149679 16408 80.91.229.3 (16 Apr 2015 02:01:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 02:01:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 16 04:01:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YiZ77-000549-7U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 04:01:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34964 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiZ76-0006Ku-Pu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:01:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34246) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiZ6w-0006Kp-24 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:00:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiZ6s-000338-Rr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiZ6s-00032Z-KJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:00:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YiZ6q-0004wv-PH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 04:00:52 +0200 Original-Received: from 23.91.157.11 ([23.91.157.11]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 04:00:52 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 23.91.157.11 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 04:00:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 23.91.157.11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:N4K2MDb1bghgIMXWasOQu78vEZ0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103760 Archived-At: > I have vivid memory of being able to interact with those ellipsis as > buttons, which would then expand and reveal previously invisible forms. I think your memory is right. The NEWS file for Emacs-21 says: *** The commands to evaluate Lisp expressions, such as C-M-x in Lisp modes, C-j in Lisp Interaction mode, and M-:, now bind the variables print-level, print-length, and debug-on-error based on the new customizable variables eval-expression-print-level, eval-expression-print-length, and eval-expression-debug-on-error. The default values for the first two of these variables are 12 and 4 respectively, which means that `eval-expression' now prints at most the first 12 members of a list and at most 4 nesting levels deep (if the list is longer or deeper than that, an ellipsis `...' is printed). or on the printed text toggles between an abbreviated printed representation and an unabbreviated one. > If this was in fact a feature, that was pulled out of stock emacs > I would find it very interesting to learn about the reason that forced > such decision. I don't think it's been removed. I've never used it, tho, so maybe it doesn't work any more. If so, try M-x report-emacs-bug. Stefan